Monday, June 06, 2011

Response to: Facts

The only problem existing for you Costner, is your denial and REFUSAL to face the FACTS! Period. No matter how much proof you are shown and were shown, it is just on to the next full of bullshit merry go round ride like some bratty 4 year old, in total denial of the FACTS that you have been shown. Thats called a serious attempt to silence the truth. With all the cards on the table and all replies published you NEVER could stand up to me. Not on the Argus, nor here! So what does Costner do? He creates a bog where he can slander the opposition repeatedly, and disallow any and all reply comments at all. He controls the information. He refuses to actually debate the opposition, because Gorski says its not smart. Then alias no identity Costner walks away proclaiming himself the winner; just like the pharma junk science based Gorski. Wow, whats that worth. And what part have you played in the other recent hacks and attempts to destroy me have you had knowledge of. Some of them are no known yo go back two years, from the time of that first Gardasil facts and truth letter in the Argus, and the one page website. It is know known the hacking started there, and it was unknown to me what they had done. It was clear to me they were up to some very bad stuff, I just had no what to know what that was. I do now.

I know exactly what they did, but my computer knowledge is very limited to understand that, and how it was done. It was obviously professionally done, beyond knowledge I have or would ever have, and yes by some very skilled hackers. They have clearly even tried everything they could to falsely get me sent to prison, for activity I had no knowledge of. Going so far as to put place illegal porn trafficking links which were hacked into my emails and hacked into my website. I have just recently leaned this. Why did they do it? To once and for all silence the truth I was putting out there; and as well to destroy my website. Well, once again it is NOT going to work.

Here are some highlights of what you wrote, Costner!

This is why when Mr. Hubbs claims he has "facts" of vaccines causing autism, or that it is a "fact" that modern medicine is the third or fourth leading cause of death in the US, or that it is a "fact" that there are natural cancer cures that are being suppressed or hidden by "big pharma", it isn't that he is actually able to support these statements with evidence, it is merely that he misunderstands the term "fact".

All lies, the science that does show vaccine do cause autism would never be reputable enough for you no matter what, and you have been shown them many times. As on the Argus, no matter what, you deny all as if you were never shown anything.

As a fact modern medicine has been proven to be the third leading cause of death and you have been linked to those studies as well numerous times. Those are well done studies from very prestigious and qualified sources, and those facts are irrefutable! In fact you even have a blog page on your blog attempting to discredit the information, and you couldn't even get the basic math right! Here was my response page!  Here! 

As for big pharma hiding and suppressing  the facts about natural protocols, products, and information about raw food, juicing and the real diet that heals and gets people healthy again; the evidence for the facts and as to the truth on that are everywhere. You just refuse to look. You are a denialist. Pharma does not need to suppress that information other than to never investigate it, the FDA sanctioning and legal harassment of providers is enough in itself, maintaining that only a drug can treat, cure, or prevent anything. Any other claims to natural healing are forbidden; and you have the audacity to deny THAT? The evidence of that is everywhere, educate yourself, fool!    

More denial of the facts, by Costner!

The fact is, there is no reputable peer-reviewed or replicable science showing vaccines cause or even contribute to autism.  LIE! You know were shown endless science that would conclusively determine in any rational and sane mind that vaccines are causing autism. Add to that the endless parental accounts of that result! 

The fact is, Andrew Wakefield has been proven to be a fraud. Lie! You were shown repeatedly that was not true, and as well where the REAL fraud exists!

The fact is, some Amish do in fact receive vaccinations. Lie! At Homefirst Medical Community there are over 36,000 of un-vaccinated children, and they do NOT have autism, nor epidemics of asthma, diabetes, allergies, cancer, ADD ADHD, etc etc.

And this article below that you linked to, is all a bunch of bullshit Costner, where is the poof of their claims? It is the most poorly written article I have ever read. You have to actually study the large numbers of Amish that have NOT been vaccinated!

Autism Among the Amish

The fact is, the MMR vaccine does not cause autism. Lie! The proof is in the large amount of MMR science that does exist and that you were shown. The proof is in as well the now large number of children that have recovered  from autism by use of biomedical treatment. Biomedical treatment corrects the damage done by the MMR vaccine.

The fact is, thimerosal does not cause autism. Lie! Autism does not come from one single cause, but it is a TOXICITY issue in general, and some children due to low levels of glutatione can not detox mercury. That burden does trip the scales for that child physiologically, and autism is the result.

The fact is, real science is not open to debate, and the scientifically supportable facts don't change. Lie! The only science you have ever referenced is that of CDC funded origin, and as well a hand full of AAP studies. All of them have been shot down having been proven to be junk science, and no amount of rubbing that in your face would be enough for you to admit it.

Here is another comment by Costner.

Obviously they have tried, but things just haven't worked out for them.  First they claimed autism was caused by thimerosal and they attempted to produce data to support that viewpoint.  However, in time their data was shown to be faulty, and once thimerosal was removed from vaccines and the rates of autism did not decrease... the antivaxers were left scurrying for another cause.  They didn't have the evidence necessary to prove their claims, thus the claims of "fact" were once again proven to have no merit.

Do you know who Poul Thorson is Costner? He was responsible for the Danish study, and what did that study claim to? It claimed falsely that the autism rates never went down when thimerosal was removed. Again CDC funded. One of the largest studies done, and used in the federal vaccine court to deny thousands proper compensation!

Autism Researcher Poul Thorsen Indicted

Poul Thorsen: The CDC Finances, Writes and Helps Publish Danish Research
The Poul Thorsen story: ‘The CDC finances, writes and helps publish Danish research…

Here is another mindless claim you have made on that page, Costner!

Parents stopped vaccinating their children and the rates of Measles and Rubella skyrocketed as a result.  There was only one problem... Wakefield was a fraud and his data was based upon faulty assumptions.  Not only that, but Wakefield fabricated data, engaged in unethical behavior, ignored the entire concept of a random sample, and falsified patient records to reach the conclusion he had already determined in his own mind.

Again a LIE! First of all, neither Measles nor Rubella are some highly fatal nor damaging disease, and parents with the real vaccine truth knowledge deserve to weigh the benefits verses the risk as to the MMR vaccine, and with full knowledge choose to use it or not. There is a certain something to as well proper knowledge a parent deserves to have to know how to keep the child or teens immune system strong, by proper diet and other means that the main stream circles will never teach them; they don't even know themselves. But for a person like you Costner, who mindlessly advocates pharmaceuticals and vaccines only; nothing can be gained as to your knowledge, because nothing would be enough to admit your error! 

Again a LIE, as to your second statement above. I showed you a full page of studies on my site that contained numerous well done studies that support Dr. Andrew Wakefields study, they also exist many of them on this blog itself, go to the Wakefield related pages! 

And the truth gets silenced repeatedly in the medical community, and again and again by Costner's denial of all. What created any such man? 

 Facts are facts, that is correct. The only issue here is your refusal to face the facts Costner! No proof would ever be enough for people like you, apparently someone has to much to lose. And clearly someone, and likely not only you, just can not deal with those facts. So what do they do? Attack the messenger.  

Here is Costner's last comment on the page.

In the end, the antivaxers continue to slide the goal posts in the hopes that one day they will be able to claim victory, but in reality they are no different than a preacher who continually claims to know when the world will end... yet is proven wrong time and time again.

John Adams was right - facts really are stubborn things.  They are also incredibly frustrating if you happen to be a vaccine conspiracy theorist with a severe misunderstanding of what a fact really is.

You said the pharma science can not be debated? But indeed on many levels it can be; and that is the most dishonest claim ever made. 

My response, there is no victory in thousands of children being damaged by vaccines with proven far less effectiveness than has ever been admitted to. The endless herd immunity failures are evidence of that, as well as even the clinical trials if you actually read them. As well, antibodies do not prove there is efficacy, nor immunity, nor that any person will not contract what was vaccinated for, and at times that has been in large numbers, to large for the CDC to ignore, but they in fact have. They have to much to lose.

There is also no victory in a Gardasil or Cervarix severely damaged young woman, nor in a now found group of infertile woman that received Gardasil. That was warned about from the start and ignored. Now nearly 90 young woman reported as to have died from the Gardasil vaccine, equaling a known only 1 to 10% reporting factor. 1000 damaging, but just like you Costner, as to the FDA and CDC, nothing is enough nor ever will be. They are not going down. You can silence the truth all you want, mock, harass, slander, and falsely attack me or anyone else out there putting for the facts, but it does not CHANGE the facts!  

Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity


The cause of autoimmunity, which is unknown, is investigated from a different angle, i.e., the defect in immune ‘system’, to explain the cause of autoimmunity.

Methodology/Principal Findings

Repeated immunization with antigen causes systemic autoimmunity in mice otherwise not prone to spontaneous autoimmune diseases. Overstimulation of CD4+ T cells led to the development of autoantibody-inducing CD4+ T (aiCD4+ T) cell which had undergone T cell receptor (TCR) revision and was capable of inducing autoantibodies. The aiCD4+ T cell was induced by de novo TCR revision but not by cross-reaction, and subsequently overstimulated CD8+ T cells, driving them to become antigen-specific cytotoxic T lymphocytes (CTL). These CTLs could be further matured by antigen cross-presentation, after which they caused autoimmune tissue injury akin to systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE).


Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality.

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