Saturday, December 18, 2010

Response to: Gardisil: Fact vs. Fiction Part 2

Gardisil: Fact vs. Fiction
I have already replied to this blog page once, and that entry is right here. On this page I will respond seperately to each comment made.

As you get to know Mr. Hubbs you realize his medical and vaccine conspiracy theories are not only limited to autism or mercury or thimerosal, but rather to pretty much any vaccine ever developed.  This includes the MMR vaccine, the polio vaccine (I'm working on a post related to his "sugar causes polio" nonsense), and of course the Gardisil vaccine.

Heres a little information that should correct some of your selective stupidity.

In fact, for quite some time you could even say Gardisil was Mr. Hubbs' favorite topic, and he considers himself one of the world's foremost researchers on the subject.  Granted 100% of what he knows has been obtained via Google searches and he has never set foot in an actual scientific research lab and has never taken a single college course on biochemistry (or any other college course for that matter) nor has he ever bothered to read the numerous medical studies which were performed on the vaccine prior to the FDA approval, but lets try to avoid those issues for now.

Maybe some of this information will clear up some your delusional thought processes as to their being no studies. It is pretty hard to refute when that information comes right from the FDA, and the VRBPAC preapproval meeting documents. Listen up!I could easily outline for you what is on that video and have before; however you can easily follow what is stated. Apparently you dont even know what is in those FDA statements and douments. Looks like the only one avoiding the issues, is you?

Gardasil HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed

The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed

A Judicial Watch Special Report: Examining the FDA’s HPV Vaccine Records.(This additionally will address what you hear in the Mike Adams Gardasil truth video)!

FDA Background Document (May 18, 2006) Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee: Gardasil HPV Quadrivalent Vaccine.

So although it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Hubbs would write about Gardisil, what does surprise me is that he makes claims which he himself has never been able to substantiate with science.  Case in point is the following comment left on a Gardisil discussion by our very own Mr. Hubbs:

What is quite unbelievable for a person like you that claims to have knowledge of all that claimed to science as to vaccines and as well as to Gardasil, that you can never refer to any, nor post any of that?

How many vaccines can you answer these questions for? I know on the Argus you were asked that before and couldn't come up with much of anything.

I am sure you can and would have the ability to fill this implied consent [having informed the parent or patient of all the risks] form out for each and every vaccine as well?

Here he finds a 2 year old posted article reply by me, somewhere on the internet.

"The fact is 90% of HPV infections clear on their own. This vaccination is unproven to how long immunity lasts, may be no more than 5 yrs at best. HPV is not proven to cause cervical cancer, only that HPV sometimes resides in precancerous cervical lesions. The theory that any virus causes cancer is also unproven and questioned by several medical reseachers. [sic]"  ~

And goes on to respond:

So here we have Mr. Hubbs giving us facts about HPV as if he has first hand knowledge.  Don't bother asking for a source to validate his statements however as Mr. Hubbs is likely to refer you to his own blog as evidence.  The simple truth is HPV may clear on its own, but so can the mumps or measles or any number of other viruses.  Meningitis could also clear on its own if you really want to get technical, but does that mean nobody should get vaccinated because the virus MIGHT clear on its own with no side effects?

How is mumps and measles even related to HPV? Measles and Mumps cause illness, and HPV is basically and essentially silent as well as mostly unknown for most women that have it. What kind of a refuse to comprehend anything and twisted rationalization is that? Why would you want to inject 225 mcg. of aluminum (amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate) totaling 675 mcg. in the three shots, as well as, sodium chloride, L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate, (roach killer), and water for injection.

However, if you can not understand how all those vaccine toxins can actually dysregulate and suppress immune function, then I can see you have absolutely no comprehension of physiological functions of the body, to begin with? Being that Gardasil is only known to produce titers for 2.5 to 5 years; a 9 year old girl may need up to 4 sets of 3 shots or 3 additional boosters by the time she is 25! If doing the series, (no-one knows), that is 12 Gardasil shots at 225 mcg. aluminum content each. That would end up being 2700 mcg. of aluminum - shot in the arm of a young woman! Then let's add all the other vaccines, and ingredients... they get? Few to no studies have been done combining vaccine ingredients, nor on the synergistic effect it may have.

Vaccine Ingredients. [Insanity]
Gardasil Ingredients.

Information on vaccines and the adverse effect on the immune system

Vaccines and Immune Suppression.

Immune System Dysfunction, Margaret J. McFall-Ngai, Ph.D.

Margaret J. McFall-Ngai, Ph.D.
Professor, Medical Microbiology and Immunology

Why Vaccine Don't Work As Advertised.

Do Vaccines Disable The Immune System. (Good article).
Vaccines are destroying our immune systems. Amazingly, the medical profession ignores the incriminating evidence against vaccines, and continues to inflict more unnecessary and harmful vaccines on our nation's infants

How Vaccines Dysregulate The Immune System.

This is well known even in the veterinary field as well.

Vax Immune Suppression

It probably doesn't matter to Mr. Hubbs that those with HPV could spread it to others just as those with measles or mumps could spread it to others.  Mr. Hubbs doesn't seem to care about those who might contract a virus from another person however, he just wants to prevent anyone from ever being vaccinated.  The fact that a virus could be passed from person to person and could eventually lead to one or more people being diagnosed with cancer, or in some cases that people could actually die as as direct result from a simple preventable virus just isn't that important to Mr. Hubbs.

I again refer you to the video by Mike Adams and also the information above, showing that real fact information about HPV and Gardasil. You have no proof that Gardasil will prevent anything. How can anyone trust an FDA that ignored the fact that Gardasil had a negetive, thats - 44.6% effect in reduction of precanerous indicators in those in the clinical trials vaccinated with Gardasil? The outcome of that should have been testing for existing HPV strains prior to use of the vaccine. Have they done that, the answer is no; even though one of the companies that makes that test equipment, clearly made issue with that to the FDA in 2006, while making application for specific approval of their equipment for that purpose. All of it went ignored.

How can you trust an FDA that ignored the fact that they seen in the trials an increase in Virulence of non targeted strains of HPV, due to use of Gardasil. Thats nature, always trying to beat what is attempting to beat it; and no differant with bacteria and antibiotics.

Of course his care for others doesn't stop there, and his comments continue:

Then he goes on to find another posted on by me article on the internet

"some Gardasil ingredients,[sic] polysorbate 80, (said to disperse the ingredients [sic] in the vaccine more uninformly [sic]), causes infertility [sic] in mice, and no research on that by Merck was done. The vaccine also contains L- histidine, also known to cause severe allergic reacions [sic], additionally the vaccine contains sodium borate, similar to Borax and has been used as roach killer, tell me why [sic] that is in the vaccine? Do the homework, stop first, research this on the net extensively like I have for weeks. The benefits [sic] do not outweigh the risks."

Do you think you have enough [sic's] in there ...bogus character name, no identity...Costner?

So, you went and googled my name and looked for anywhere I posted. Then you expected me in that post to also fill a full page with all the references OF proof. Do you mean, just like YOU, for the most part have failed to do, here? Ya, thats what I thought.

So according to Mr. Hubbs, the benefit of preventing a young girl or woman from contracting cervical cancer doesn't outweigh the risks of getting the vaccine.  Granted he doesn't provide any facts or figures to show us why these risks are so significant, and he doesn't compare the number of doses given of the vaccine with no side effects versus the few claims of vaccine injury.

The figures of how many recieved the vaccine verses the number of significant adverse reactions, unrecovered from outcomes and death, have nothing to do with anything, when you are simply putting forth the potential risks in reference to those who have been harmed. To ignore that, is to essentialy claim that the collateral damage is at an acceptable level to ignore, and that is simply and clearly not the case. That is never an acceptable view, in regard to any vaccine nor pharmacuetical drug. You simply ignore the real risks and minimize it all based on falsified CDC and FDA claimed findings. To claim that there is no pattern found, and no connection is what they perpetually attempt to claim - for any vaccine or drug out there. The damage and death rates for pharmaceutical drugs sometimes have need to be in the 6 digit numbers before they will even consider doing anything. Vioxx for example. And as usual with the FDA, that has to be prompted by outside sources.

Does this look to you like there are no serious problems with Gardasil? Endless.

Be sure to review my response page 1 to that blog, as well.

In review, it is really worth all that... isn't it; when there is no proof that Gardasil even works! The CDc has touted high levels of near 100% protection, based on what; antibody titers? Antibody titers mean nothing, loosk at all the herd immunity and vaccine failures the CDc has failed to address when the largest problem was in the vaccinated. Fear mongering the parents that it was the unvaccinated that caused it. We all know most schools that had outbreaks actually had the numbers vaccinated to call it herd immunity; something as well that the term in itself has absolutely no basis in any actual vaccine science.

Head Gardasil Researcher Says It’s Ineffective and “a Public Health Experiment”

Merck Researcher Admits: Gardasil Guards Against Almost Nothing

And when Merck attempted to mandate the vaccine for as young as all nine year old girls in every state, I bet there was allot of science backing that too? Working through women in gov't groups and falsely being told what a good deal it was, that was all false hooeey as well.

How as well can you do an honest clinical trial using as a placebo, one placebo containing the full amount of aluminum, and the other placebo contained the carrier solution?  

New Gardasil Findings about Clinical Trials.

Read all the articles on Gardasil; this woman has done more research on Gardasil than anyone else I know.

[PDF] Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - 1 Prepared Feb 4, 2010 ... Prepared by Cynthia Janak aluminum salts. pdf

Aluminum in Vaccines, a Neurological Gamble

Aluminum In Vaccines.

Merck employees had "hit list" of doctors they sought to "neutralize", court documents reveal

Merck News and Articles

Oh course Merck needed to recoup their Vioxx loses, so they had to fast track a vaccine and create a new bankroll.

Canadians Follow GARDASIL Money Trail

Revenue predictions for Merck are that GARDASIL profits will climb from $300 million to $4 billion over the next year.

Ok, lets get started. As to the below comments, here are those said CDC documents.

I myself would go for a little more unbiased data than what the CDC has, like this right here.


Human  Papilloma Virus Vaccine Safety. Analysis of Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System Reports:

Part II

Human  Papilloma Virus Vaccine Safety. Analysis of Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System Reports:

Part III

Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine Safety. Analysis of Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System Reports: Adverse Reactions, Concerns and Implications

So let's go ahead and do that for Mr. Hubbs since he seems incapable of doing so for himself.  According to the CDC as of September 30, 2010, approximately 32 million doses of Gardasil have been distributed in the US.  That is 32,000,000 doses and according to Mr. Hubbs, 32,000,000 chances that a risk would outweigh a benefit.

Incorrect: 32 million doses distributed does NOT mean there have been 32 million doses actually used by the public, that figure is seemingly quite unknown as to exact number, or as to even a guess. The actual doses used could be a fraction of that number, so really without the actual figure calculations are not going to be entirely accurate. As well we need to figure in the fact that VAERS is well known to have only a 1 to 10% reporting, due to doctos and other medical workers reluctance to ever report a suspected vaccine reaction, no matter how severe it is wrote off as another coincidence. Obviously your math here has as well entirely ignored that fact, and not figured that factor in!

So of these 32,000,000 doses, how many resulted in negative side effects or "risks"?  Well, again according to the CDC as of September 30, 2010, there were 17,160 Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reports of adverse events following Gardasil vaccination in the US. Of these reports, 92% were reports of events considered to be non-serious, and 8% were reports of events considered serious.

And if you believe any bullshit like that- claiming that only 8% of the total of adverse events were serious in nature, you clearly have not done enough research into the real life reality of Gardasil! It (that) is a complete whitewash of the truth, as always. Do you actually believe they would admit to anything, with any honesty? And as well if they were so in denial as to any common link to the death, they certainly would not be honest about the nature of the adverse events either.

There is as well a differant way of looking at it. Under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, over $2 billion has been awarded to children and adults for whom the risks of vaccine injury were 100%. We know as well that the NVCA is not a catch all and only a small percentage of total claims ever actually get settled. Actually, it an unfair system as to its limitations, just as well as it has an outright corrupt system of review.

As well, lets look at that 32 million figure again! The one you equate to doses actually used.

The United States 2000 Enumerated Census showed only 36,695,524 females in the age range of 10 to 29. It was offically reported as of Nov. 2008, that 10 to 20% have received at least one dose of Gardasil; averaging 15%. That number is 5,804,329, which based on that information at that time-recieved at least one dose of Gardasil.

In a non VAERS system not mentioned here, there were reported 20,000 adverse reactions directly to Merck -2008. Which is closer to what exists in VAERS in 2010.

October 23, 2008 Cervical Cancer Vaccine Called Safe

[In this information] The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Immunization Safety Office said a study of 370,000 doses given to girls and young women over the past two years found no evidence that the vaccine causes an increased risk of blood clots or other serious conditions, Bloomberg News reported.

So by that above article, here in 2008 the CDC number of estimated doses of Gardasil used, were 370,000, a long ways from 32 million!!! How's that figure, to you??? In other words they used up less than a million doses of Gardasil, from the first use in June 2006, to October 2008; but used 30 million additional doses between 2008 and 2010? Wow? Something smells a little rotten in Denmark as to your use of the CDC figures... there Costner? You better call the CDC and ask what the right number is, as to those actually vaccinated with Gardasil, and the total number of doses used??? Allot of young ladies never completed the shots, after getting sick from the first one or two

So, it doesn't seem that you could ever really get a precisely accurate count of just how many doses of Gardasil vaccine have actually been used. Unless there is a source, I haven't yet run across.

Gardasil and HPV Infection Get the facts.

As to the numbers of adverse reactions; as said, you and the CDC have neglected to inform anyone that there is a well known only 1 to 10% reporting factor as to the VAERS system. So would that matter or make any differance to you? It should. 17160 adverse reactons then become with a 10% reporting factor x 10 and equal to over 171 thousand adverse reactions. 1373 serious reactions then become 13,730. 56 deaths then become 560 deaths. That is if the reporting is even as high as 10%. So what you have created here is just about flat out worthless as to the reality of Gardasil risk.

Gardasil – A different way of looking at the reactions.

VAERS reporting -- is it accurate?  [An example of what I showed you].

Gardasil tragedies -- Where are the reports? A few examples of case histories where the girl died, and they say there is no common link found?

Polysorbate 80 and Histidine, a marriage of disaster. [Theres one of your links,]!

Gardasil Update: learn about the concerned womens group that took the Gardasil issue to the FDA. And what happened? It doesn't appear that much of anything resulted. The FDA can not admit to any major issue with any vaccine, as they know it will open the pandoras box questioning all vaccines.

The REAL truth!!! CDC Gardasil Risk Report Is A Cover-up


This week the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in association with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) issued a report on Gardasil vaccine safety that amounts to a cover-up of serious reactions, including paralysis and deaths, that have been reported to the government's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS).

Today (October 24, 2008), the National Vaccine Information Center issued a press release that calls on the CDC and FDA to release to the public the study design, data and names of principal investigators involved in the report maintaining that Gardasil vaccine is safe with no serious side effects. NVIC will also be calling on the newly elected President and members of Congress to remove the nation's vaccine safety monitoring system from DHHS and place it in a separate entity reporting directly to Congress.
Conflicts of interest are rampant in a mass vaccination infrastructure that has the same people, who are regulating and promoting vaccines, also evaluating vaccine safety. This kind of conflict of interest cannot be tolerated.

October 26, 2008 Gardasil safety questioned, CDC urged to back up statement with data. National Vaccine Information Center Says Government Denies Gardasil Risks.


The CDC and FDA are alleging that the vast majority - if not all - of the approximately 9,000 HPV vaccine adverse events, including (at that time) 27 deaths, reported to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) are not causally related to the Gardasil vaccine based on internal analysis, including review of medical records of girls and women vaccinated in HMO's participating in the federal Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) Project and other closed government operated databases.

"Transparency in government is essential to trust in government and replication is the hallmark of good science," said NVIC co-founder and president Barbara Loe Fisher. "Parents of young girls and women cut down in their prime - some of them paralyzed or dead within hours or days of getting Gardasil vaccine - deserve better answers than a whitewashing of this vaccine's very serious side effects. Until there is an independent confirmation of these unverified findings by individuals and companies without financial ties to the government or industry, it is not credible."

So out of 17,160 events, approximately 92% (or 15,787 events) are non-serious.  This includes things like pain at the injection site (common for any shot), dizziness, headache, fever, or fainting.  Since these events are not serious and typically clear up on their own, lets disregard them for the sake of this discussion.

Do you mean, just like they disregarded all the endless number of seizures these girls had a short time after the shots, and as well even days and weeks later. As for some of the reported as Gardasil deaths to VAERS, and I wondered too, how a car accident death could be attributed to Gardasil. They had a seizure and crashed their cars, and someone knew it! It was oddly enough listed the same way in the clinical trials as well. And what did the FDA do? They only placed a new warning to have the woman lying down when injected and watch for them 15 minutes. Again, a total disconnect from the reality of the situation that was and is going on.

This leaves us with the 8% (or approximately 1,373 events) which are classified as serious.  Of this 8%, some of these events include girls being diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS), although once again if we refer to the CDC source material we find "there has been no indication that Gardasil increases the rate of GBS in girls and women above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.

And, how much consideration was given to Gardasil being combined with other vaccines?

NVIC Analysis Shows Greater Risk Of GBS Reports When HPV Vaccine Is Given With Meningococcal And Other Vaccines.

If you actually think Guillian-Barre Syndrome is the issue and the only major issue with Gardasil, you have been drinking the CDC Koolaid for far to long!

Gardasil Trials Update “New Medical Conditions”

Again, do not forget that as to that VAERS reporting, that it is clearly well known that VAERS contains only reporting of 1 to 10% of the total reactions that should and could have been reported. Why? Because the brainwashed doctors refuse to report the reactions, no matter how severe; to include even death it is attributed to something else or no cause found. Look at those VAERS reports! The assumption is always that it couldn't have been the vaccine, and that it is all again a coincidence. When you read the endless real life accounts of this as to all the Gardasil unrecovered outcomes; doctors have repeatedly nearly bankrupted families, looking and testing for any cause - but Gardasil. Oh ya, now they have Cervarix too, with its new Apo4 adjuvant, proven equally if not more dangerous in its now known results. It was first approved in Europe and was held up here over the adjuvant they had no existing way nor set guideline in regard to safety. Just let your daughter be a guinea pig for pharma.

VAERS Usefulness and Limitations.

November 2008 Let us play with the Gardasil numbers. (Theres some damaging information-if I ever seen it)! Read and educate yourself!

So what does that mean?  Well it simply means the incidence of girls being diagnosed with GBS occurs in the same rate whether they were or were not vaccinated with Gardisil.  Therefore scientifically speaking we cannot link the rate of GBS with the vaccination and the only reason these types of events are reported to VAERS is because the system is intended to collect all events whether related or not.  Since there is no proven increase in the rate of GBS, it doesn't appear this is a significant risk.

Ok, ya right, keep believing that. Whatever the CDC states is correct and absolutely right!
Another serious event reported included blood clots.  This isn't so much of an issue with Gardisil as it is with an injection itself of course, but as it turns out those girls and women who experienced blood clots were in the "at risk" category which includes those who smoke, those who take oral contraceptives, and those who are considered obese.  Thus in this case, a number of factors may have contributed to the blood clots including lifestyle choice... so is this something we can blame solely upon the Gardisil vaccine?  Not very likely.

Here is what even JAMA had to say about those blood clots.

Conclusions Most of the AEFI rates were not greater than the background rates compared with other vaccines, but there was disproportional reporting of syncope and venous thromboembolic events. The significance of these findings must be tempered with the limitations (possible underreporting) of a passive reporting system.

The Risks and Benefits of HPV Vaccination -JAMA
[Not exactly a raving review]!

If they were at risk in using birth control pills at the time they were given Gardasil, then why did the FDA not require Merck to study that prior to approval of the vaccine? There no warnings on that, any more than that Gardasil could cause a -44.6% increased chance of cervical cancer, if you already had an existing targeted strain. it is right in the FDA approval douments. As condition of approval Merck was to study it further and report back. Try and find anything in the FDA douments on that outcome? It doesn't exist.

An example of this would be building a home.  The foundation is designed to support a single family home with one story above ground, and assuming the house is build as designed everything will be fine.  However decades later, the new owner of the house decides he needs more room, so he adds another two stories to the house.  He doesn't bother to reinforce the foundation, and assumes everything will be fine.  He finishes the project and decides to put a new hot tub on the third floor which holds 1,000 gallons of water.  A few weeks after living in the new expanded house it starts to settle.  A few weeks after that the foundation develops a huge crack on one wall, and soon the foundation fails and the house falls down bringing the hot tub and the 1,000 gallons of water into the basement

Kind of like the house of Merck should have cracked and fallen, after the Vioxx and Gardasil scandles?

So is the hot tub to blame for the foundation failing?  Obviously not - because there was a known weak point in the home.  Had the foundation been strong enough to accept a larger structure, there wouldn't be a problem, but we don't blame the failure on the hot tub merely because we didn't know about the weak foundation.

The same is true with a case where a vaccine or medication might result in a condition which was underlying.  Even if we didn't know about the condition, is it the fault of the vaccine if it comes to the surface?  If we did know about the condition, but didn't think it would impact us, is it still fair to blame the vaccine if we are proven wrong?  I dare say there is inherent risk in everything we do, but we can no more blame the vaccine for an underlying condition when we knew about the risk factors than we can blame the hot tub for the failing foundation when the builder knew about the weak foundation.

Translation: Even if it was the Gardasil, that way they can always blame it on something else, and claim there was never any common link found; no matter what. Must of been another coincidence.

All of this said, the one primary serious event that everyone is concerned with is the risk of death, so if it is determined that Gardisil results in girls dying simply by taking the vaccine, then surely it needs to be addressed.  Looking at the CDC material, we can see that out of those 32,000,000 doses of Gardisil that have been given thus far, there have been 56 deaths reported among females who have received the Gardisil vaccination.

32 million doses given??? Again, read what I just put further up on this page for information! Are you that cognitively inept that you believe 32 million distributed doses just positively has to equal 32 million doses used? That when there were only slightly over 36 million women age 10 to 29, in the 2000 census? Like noone heard all the bad stuff about Gardasil and refused their daughter to take it. It is not like it is a huge secret.

Anything you can find as always, to distort and twist the truth.

Now if we assume every woman receives the full recommended three dose schedule of the vaccine, that tells us that 10,700,000 woman have received Gardisil thus far, and of those 10,700,000 woman 56 have died.  I don't mean to trivialize 56 deaths.  In fact I don't even mean to trivialize one single death, but the math tells us these 56 deaths account for approximately 0.0005% of the women who received the Gardisil vaccination.  In other words the remaining 99.9995% of women are still alive and with us.

Oh, you are so feeling, what a nice guy?

It looks like you again clearly... ARE... trivializing allot of issues here! No proof..ever!

More importantly however, according to the CDC out of these 56 deaths (which of only 30 have been confirmed thus far), there was "no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine".  This means that if a woman died of a totally unrelated heart issue within days or perhaps even weeks of receiving the Gardisil vaccine, that event would be reported to VAERS.  It doesn't mean Gardisil caused the issue, but to err on the side of caution, all such events are reported.

Confirmed? You mean they might not be dead?

However since the analysis of these deaths does not include any pattern or clustering when compared to non-vaccinated control groups, no reasonable researcher or scientist (or even anyone with an open mind) can claim that these deaths are all related to the Gardisil vaccine itself.  In fact if you read about the actual deaths in greater detail, you will find in some cases the deaths were directly attributed to causes such as illicit drug use and heart failure.  Can we really blame a death upon a vaccination when the women decides to inject herself with illegal drugs and dies of an overdose?  I personally don't think so.

Now it is quite possible a woman out there has died or been seriously injured as a direct result of the vaccine.  Each person is unique, we all have different genetic traits including dominant and recessive genes.  We each have different risk factors, different traits such as allergies or reactions to chemical compounds, and we each have our own medical histories which may include other prescription drugs, over-the-counter medications, supplements, nutrient intakes etc, etc.  Therefore no medication, supplement, or even food is compatible with all humans, and as such there will always be a risk when someone decides to eat a new food, take a new supplement, use a new brand of toothpaste, or yes even take a new medication or vaccination.

You can not possibly be that ignorant? Eating sandwiches is sure scarey stuff? Considering that, I think I will definately stay with my old brand of toothpaste? Holy buckets. Any harm that comes from pharma, is due to bad and faulty genetics? "We done nothin"!

Obviously anything and everything we do has risk, and it is up to each individual to determine if they feel that risk is acceptable when compared to the benefits of eating the food, swallowing the supplement or vitamin, taking the medication, receiving the vaccine, or undergoing a medical procedure etc.  I don't believe that is my place to tell someone else that they must get vaccinated, but at the same time I don't believe it is in Mr. Hubbs' place to tell them they can't.  It is a personal decision best left up to the individual when they take all of the risk factors into mind.

Noone said they can't do... anything! Like I marched around to every clinic in town and told them all, no, don't get that Gardasil. Informed decisions is all it was and all it ever will be about. You know the kind you advocated as well but failed to give them the complete information? Decisions made with as well, the non biased information. According to you nothing is biased in the pharmaceutical world, and there is no control of any important information, so you falsely believe people such as me are not needed, nor anyone else out there but pharma the CDC and FDA. You have all the science...remember?

However it seems clear in this case, the risk of receiving a Gardisil vaccination is no greater than the risk of choosing to eat a sandwich for lunch or the decision to take aspirin to relieve a headache.  For all of the screaming and yelling and arguments made against this vaccine really don't live up to scrutiny when you look at the facts and examine the real numbers.

Does a sandwich have any aluminum and/or sodium borate in it? Do you think there is any difference in eating polysorbate 80, and injecting it? How about L- histidine? They thought they didn't need to study it before they thought of injecting it in a vaccine, as it is an amino acid already found in the body. What they didn't realize was that injecting it can throw off the natural balance of histidine that exists. Mixed with polysorbate 80 that also causes infertility in mice, wellaa, you get the article published, Polysorbate 80 and histidine a marriage of disaster. But surely you have never read that.

Why then don't you just inject a sandwich, for lunch; to fit your logic? I think Sanfords doing a diabetes study on that? And just like the thimersol issue, you equate eating a substance like tuna, with injecting thimerosal, and as essentially the same thing. You are now as author of that blog, a genuine top notch physiological health scholar! We can all now clearly see that.

Oh, and you have someone else that feels the same way...congratulations!

The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed

I will debate you publicly any place you choose, and we will videotape it and upload it to youtube, that should be good for a laugh? What did you say your health care credentials... were? Oh thats right, you don't have any identity.

You should have known better than to screw with that!

Granted I'm not the only one who feels this way, as a poster named "Amber" who responded to Mr. Hubbs' comment had the following to say:

"Ah, well, we all know internet research trumps firsthand experience…"

Well played Amber... well played indeed.

Thursday, December 16, 2010

A Certain Reply To This Blog


Why I left Main Stream Medicine By A Nurse.

This below, is a reply message received... daring me to post it.

 Cut and paste...cut and paste. That is all you can do Lowell. At least Costner(if that who you think it truly is)writes on his blog. All you do is cite others. No original thoughts. I know you don't have the balls to allow this comment to be seen--but you should consider wearing a helmet around. Not only for protection from the "sheeple" that are trying to get you, but also because you are a complete fucktard. My guess is you are too scared to get vaccinated because it reminds you of prison---getting poked brings back some bad memories. Later Gator!

By Anonymous on Response to: Mr. Hubbs Convoluted Idea Of "Research... on 12/7/10


This is clearly SugarDealer that posted along side Costner on the Argus Leader -Voices section, Sioux Falls, SD, and author of the refered to blog I had sent a message to the other blog and this was the result, as well as the picture you see on that blog.

Hey Sugar your insults do not phase me, because I always consider the source. I know what you are and will always be. You can not face the facts, so you must falsely attack the messenger.

If you haven't noticed, every claim in that blog has been refuted here. All he does is quote the CDC/FDA lies; how hard is that? To put forth the truth information takes allot more work. You have nothing.

Do Flu Shots Work? Ask A Vaccine Manufacturer.

Vitamin D not flu shots

Vitamin D Resource Page

Dr. John Cannell on vitamin D

You said you were educated? Sure doesn't look like it to me? Maybe you should try some unbiased sources? "Polio and small pox was irradicated, and the diseases since then. Children would die by the millions if we didn't have vaccines"! "The CDC says, the WHO says". Baaaaaa. 


Videos for Dr. Andrew Moulden.

You can see this, look around you!!! Once you understand what is happening, you will see this more often than you can have imagined. Cranial nerves effected by ischemia due to blood sludging in the fine end blood micro vessel capillaries of the brain. Eyes or one eye not centralized, bilateral fold of the cheek, corner of the mouth. Eye pupils centralized but one turning/rotating outward, etc. It has been there all along, the same as in wild polio and other illness. If the illness/disease can and did cause it, (the same thing), so can the vaccine. The aluminum adjuvants also play a role.

49 Doses of 14 Vaccines Before The Age of Six.

And do you think that SIDS and Autism are new genetic disorders; something now wrong with the kids? Both increasing parallel to the increase in vaccines from the 1960's, to 1987 and the advent of the no manufacturer/doctor liability NVCA quadrupling of vaccines on the CDC schedule. Vaccines can cause immune system dysregulation and suppression. How can that protect you from illness and disease?

(Part 1 of 3). Vaccines, Autism and the Solution. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

(Part 2 of 3) Vaccines, Autism and the Solution. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

(Part 3 of 3)Vaccines, Autism and the Solution. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Vaccines, Autism and the Solution: (response to question 2) Part 1 . Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Vaccines, Autism and the Solution: (response to question 2) Part 2. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Dr. Andrew Moulden at the "Save Canada - stop the SPP" rally. [Telling it like it is]! "Vaccines. "This is a global problem, a global phenomonen, that they... know about"! [Listen closely]!&


They know that brain science is there, and easily this could be verified as to vaccines, but they refuse to. Think of the liability, and the end of their failed decades long claim of safety and effectiveness. They have to much to lose. The use of darkfield blood microscopy would confirm the flow problems and blood sludging, after vaccination. What did the FDA do? They banned this diagnostic technique from use in diagnosis of any patients conditions. Imagine that. It would show the real causes of disease; but then they would have to go back to the Becamp knowedge of the soil and the seed, the false germ theory. They aren't going to do it. They would have to quit doing everything they are doing, and it would become a blank slate. Back to square one.

And what did they do to this man, Andrew Moulden; they have literally attempted to destroyed him on every level; he knew to much. And they, "have ALL the science"?! Amazing ....evil!

8 Vaccination Myths.

One of endless excerpts you can find.: In the early 1900's, the
Philippines experienced their worst smallpox epidemic ever after 8
million people received 24.5 million vaccine doses (achieving a
vaccination rate of 95%); the death rate quadrupled as a result.
Before England's first compulsory vaccination law in 1853, the largest
two-year smallpox death rate was about 2,000; in 1870-71, England and
Wales had over 23,000 smallpox  deaths.  In 1989, the country of Oman
experienced a widespread polio outbreak six months after achieving
complete vaccination.  In the U.S. in 1986, 90% of 1300 pertussis
cases in Kansas were "adequately vaccinated."  72% of pertussis cases
in the 1993 Chicago out-break were fully up to date with their

Smallpox Myths, Revisited

Nazi connections to Allopathy, I.G. Farben.


Modern medicine is not a science and modern medicine clinicians are
not scientists. Modern clinicians may use scientific technologies but
in the way they treat their patients they are still quacks....Medicine
is no longer an independant profession. Doctors have become nothing
more than a link connecting the pharmaceutical industry to the

Dr. Vernon Coleman

We are dealing with a megalithic group that allows no competition.
None...Youve got a historical bias going from the 1800's by organized
medicine clear up to the current to today. It denies undercover and
overtly all alternative therapies and lifestyles.
And then you get the FDA to attack anyone or anything that threatens it.

Gary Null, Phd.


"If anything were wrong, the CDC and the FDA would be right on it, they provide a valuable service to the public". "You don't understand the scientific method"!

Ask a Question
Do Background Research
Construct a Hypothesis
Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
Communicate Your Results

Gee, with that, I bet could likely even prove that mercury (thimersol) improves the functioning of children, just like the Academy of Pediatrics... did?

How to Lie with Statistics [Paperback]

How To Lie Effectively?

How to lie and not look as though you are lying

So You Wanna Lie Persuasively?

Here we go!

Gardasil HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed  [-44.6% efficacy]

CDC allegedly falsifies reports--ignoring up to 3,587 Miscarriages from H1N1 Vaccine.

Flu Vaccine Caused 3587 US Miscarriages & Stillbirths

25 mcg. of mercury content in the current 2010-11 flu vaccine shots
for pregnant women. And don't even attempt to tell me there is more
potential harm as to the mercury in a can of tuna, verses injecting
that straight into the human body. The FDA still claims amalgam
fillings are safe too! I am living proof they are NOT, as to what I
went through; as well as many others!

You can't convince the (CDC) this is right. Do you know why? because
they already know it. They told me they know it. They can not admit it
because of the civil and criminal potential problems. You can't
convince someone who already knows it". Mark Geir, MD Chicgo, Illinois
May 30th, 2004 @Autism One Conference.

Multiple Vaccinations, [Check out what the real VAERS vaccine 1 to 10% death and adverse reaction reporting numbers would look like]!

By Mark Sircus Ac., OMD Director International Medical Veritas Association
February 14, 2006

Vaccines: How Deadly Are They?

Proof the media is controlled by the pharmacuetical & chemical companies. Article on Monsanto.

Flu Vaccines, pharma fraud, quack science, the CDC and WHO -- all exposed by Richard Gale and Gary Null

WHO list reveals flu advisors with financial ties to pharma, vaccine manufacturers

Seasonal flu death estimates grossly overestimated

Thirty-Six Thousand People Do Not Die Each Year from "Regular Flu" (Confirmed)

CDC Admits to Inaccurate and Misleading Flu Stats

Seasonal flu vaccines increase risk of pandemic H1N1 flu, stunned scientists discover

CDC Vaccine Advisor Paul [for profit] Offit - Pockets $29 Million Promoting Vaccines.
Learn more:

Central Figure in CDC Vaccine Safety Studies Investigated for Fraud

Former head of CDC lands lucrative job as president of Merck vaccine division

Mumps outbreak spreads among people who got vaccinated against mumps

Teenage Girls Develop Degenerative Muscle Diseases After HPV Vaccine Injections

"Vaccines are safe and effective"!

Vaccine Failures in America.

Articles tagged with "vaccine failure."

High Secondary Vaccine Failure Amongst Teenagers Vaccinated For
Measles At Young Age
Protective Effect of Childhood Measles Against Allergies and Atopies
Susceptibility To Asymptomatic Reinfection Amongst Fully Vaccinated Individuals
Do Infections and Measles Reduce the Development of Allergic Diseases?
Measles Infection Protects Against Allergic DIseases in Children
High Occurrence of Secondary Vaccine Failures in Teenagers Vaccinated
at an Early Age
Measles Induced Remission of Psoriasis
Measles Vaccine Found in Throat of Vaccinated Child
Parkinsons Disease in Five Year Old Child After Measles Vaccine
Exaggerated Natural Measles Following Two Rounds of Live Attenuated Vaccine
Measles Vaccination Pushes Occurrence of Disease to an Older Age Group
Measles Outbreak in Previously Immunized Children, Florida, US
Protective Effect of Childhood Measles Against Degenerative Diseases
in Later Life
Primary and Secondary Measles Vaccine Failures in Measles Outbreak, Brazil
Measles Outbreak in a Fully Immunized Secondary School Population - Texas
An Explosive Point-Source Measles Outbreak In A Highly Vaccinated Population
The Role of The Measles Vaccine in Preventing Measles Deaths in the
20th Century
What Is Vaccine Failure?
Whooping Cough (Pertussis) In The Fully Vaccinated
Mumps Vaccine Failure in Navarre, Spain
Mumps Outbreak Amongst The Fully Vaccinated (MMR) in Anglesey
Indian Kid Contracts Polio Despite Six Vaccinations
Antibody Concentrations Do Not Predict Individual Protection -
Pneumococcal Vaccine Failure
Previously Vaccinated Student Dies of Meningitis
Widespread Transmission of Paralytic Polio Amongst Fully Vaccinated
Children in Oman
The Paradox of Measles Infections in Immunized Persons
High Occurrence of Secondary Vaccine Failures in Teenagers Vaccinated
at an Early Age
Explaining the Reemergence of Pertussis in Vaccinated Populations
Antibodies Do Not Equal Immunity: Mumps Outbreak in 95% Vaccinated Population
Polio Vaccine Victim Awarded $8.5 Million Compensation
BBC News: Vaccine call after 16 mumps cases (2009)
Postvaccine Mumps-like Disease in Italian Military Recruits
Outbreak Of Mumps In A Vaccinated Child Population - Belgium
Measles Cases In Highly Vaccinated Population Of Novosibirsk, Russia
An Outbreak Of Mumps In A Population Partially Vaccinated With The
Rubini Strain
Sustained Transmission Of Mumps In A Highly Vaccinated Population - Tennessee
Mumps Outbreak In A Highly Vaccinated School Population. Evidence For
Large-Scale Vaccination Failure
Two Successive Outbreaks Of Mumps In Nova Scotia Among Vaccinated
Adolescents And Young Adults
Two Dose MMR Fails: Largest Outbreak of Mumps in the United States in 2006
Measles Epidemic in Vaccinated Community: Prior Vaccination Not Always
Associated With Immunity
Explosive School-Based Measles Outbreak in Vaccinated Students - Finland
Measles Outbreak in a Vaccinated School Population
Measles Outbreak in Tasmania - Vaccination Failure
Adult Measles Outbreaks: A Problem Due To Current Vaccination Policy
Two Independent Outbreaks of Measles in Partially Vaccinated Junior
High Schools, Japan
Measles Outbreak in a College with Requirement of Pre-Vaccination
Prior to Enrollment
Measles Vaccine Failure Amongst 98% Vaccinated Student Population
Mild Measles and Secondary Vaccine Failure In A Highly Vaccinated Population
Persistent Outbreak of Measles Despite Appropriate Prevention and
Control Measures - Montana
Measles Epidemic in Cape Town With 91% Vaccination Coverage
Major Measles Epidemic in Quebec Despite 99% Vaccination Coverage
Primary and Secondary Measles Vaccine Failures in Measles Outbreak, Brazil

Polio and Tonsillectomies

Parents worried about the MMR could give vitamin A instead.

An Explosive Point-Source Measles Outbreak In A Highly Vaccinated Population

Excerpt: As Vitamin C and Vitamin A have been proven and documented to both
cure and prevent measles, and are a matter of historical record,
measles is and was known to be a mild and harmless illness during the
60s and 70s and parents used to arrange "measles parties" to allow
their children to get measles and acquire natural lifetime immunity.
In the developed world, serious complications occur at a rate of
between 1 in 5000 to 1 in 15000, and these will be in children who are
weak and immunosuppressed. These can be successfully treated with high
dosage Vitamin C and Vitamin A.

"All only conspiracy theories".
Hearings on Hepatitis B vaccine

A Nurse is Mercury Poisoned from Hepatitis B Vaccines and Amalgams,
[when it had thimerosal]. "They have all the science".

Depopulation and HIV

Paul Offit's 10,000 vaccines at once

Paul For Profit Offit

There has to be a special place in hell for these people!

60 Minutes-REMINDER of who Dr. Paul Offit is:

[CDC] ACIP (The Advisory Committee on Immunizations Practices)

Paul Offit Gets Death Threats.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

Freedom of Information: Stalled at CDC and D.C. Government, as to why
the CDC and WHO stopped testing for H1N1 in late summer of 2008
Excerpt: CBS News learned that the decision to stop counting H1N1 flu
cases was made so hastily that states weren't given the opportunity to
provide input. Instead, on July 24, the Council for State and
Territorial Epidemiologists, CSTE, issued the following notice to
state public health officials on behalf of the CDC:

Read more:;contentBody

Posted by Sharyl Attkisson

We have been lied to on EVERY front!

Swine Flu Cases Overestimated?

Bracing Ourselves for More Sham Vaccine Studies, [H1N1 Vaccine].
Richard Gale and Gary Null

Federal Health Agencies Continue to Deceive Americans
Congressional Report on a Vaccine Mercury-Autism Link Ignored for Six Years.

Government Launches Deceptive Swine Flu Propaganda Blitz To Counter
Growing Criticism from Scientific and Medical Community

Europe Probes Swine Flu Shot, Narcolepsy Link


CDC quotes

CDC, what they really meant to write.

UPI Investigates: The vaccine conflict, on Paul Offit's vaccine.
Members of the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee get money from vaccine
manufacturers. Relationships have included: sharing a vaccine patent;
owning stock in a vaccine company; payments for research; getting
money to monitor manufacturer vaccine tests; and funding academic

Jon Poling Corrects Paul Offit Again, This Time in the NEJM

An Autism Mom's Open Letter to Dr. Paul Offit

Dr. Paul Offit: Fox in a Henhouse, the ACIP Years (1998-2003), by JB Handley.

J.B. Handley: Hungry Lie 2.0? “Autism is Genetic”.

Conflicts of Interest in Vaccine Policy Making Majority Staff Report
Committee on Government Reform U.S. House of Representatives
August 21, 2000

The Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex: A Deadly Fairy Tale
By Dr. Doug Henderson and Gary Null, Ph.D

Gary Null, Ph.D.

Death by Medicine
By Gary Null, Ph.D., PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD;
Debora Rasio, MD; and Dorothy Smith, PhD

The Medical Industry (aka Big Pharma, Medical Industrial Complex, Allopathy Inc)

ALLOPATHY INC. [Check out those quotes!]

THE REIGN OF EVIL  [Don't recognize any... of that?]

Nazi connections to Allopathy, I.G. Farben.

Death by Vaccination: The Gates Foundation and the New Eugenics

Also, we the DTaP vaccine is being grown on casein. Milk allergies. We
have some vaccines that have had peanut oil in them, severe peanut
allergies. As well we have flu vaccines grown in eggs; eventual egg
allergy. We have some people avoiding thimersol in the flu vaccines,
only to have latex in the shots, due to the latex cap tips leeching
latex as per the single dose prefilled syringes now provided by
vaccine manufacturers; latex allergies. We know in the past there have
been major problems as well for medical workers as to latex allergies.
it wasn't the gloves! It was in the vaccine. Talk to an environmental
allergist about that, and not a traditional main stream allergist.

"They have all the science"?

First Comprehensive Paper On Statins' Adverse Effects Released

Cholesterol is NOT the Cause of Heart Disease

Cholesterol Myths Debunked--Bad News for Statin Drug manufacturers

Cholesterol Is Not the Problem - Vitamin B6 info.

Why Cholesterol is Not Bad.

"Modern medicine (pharma) has all the peer reviewed science"! "What more do you need"?

Precription Drugs.

Chicken Pox, "see... I told you we needed a vaccine"? Then to fix THAT, we will need a shingles vaccine...done..the evil genie is back in the bottle! Then when the vaccine wears off and they figure that out, we will need life long boosters, just like Gardasil. If we can create enough sickness and disease we at pharma and the medcial field will all continue living in our million dollar houses and drive to the hospital like celebrities in our new cars. That "conspiracy theory" information doesn't phase me"Im ....educated" "Children are sicker than they ave ever been, but we have all the pharma/FDA peer reviewed science you could ever need".  "It was all a coincidence" "We have a drug to fix anything that's wrong with them"!

"My mom says they are good for me"????

The three circles indicate the CDC educated leaders!
twitter tweeple twitter bus followers herding sheeple twitter bus sheeple

Where the insanity takes place. We have to do better! Our very survival of humanity depends on it. It can not continue.... like... that. As well the very idea of vaccines used as population control, is straight out of the some demented Frankestein science only the devil himself could have designed; or done a better job.

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" [About 1 Billion People!]- Bill Gates

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and Alex Jones: Flu Vaccines - What's Coming Through That Needle 1/3


H1N1 Vaccine Miscarriage Update

H1N1 Miscarriage Stories You Tube 2

CDC allegedly falsifies reports--ignoring up to 3,587 Miscarriages from H1N1 Vaccine

Progressive Convergence.

Video Index

H1N1 Miscarriages: Hundreds of women claim miscarriage after taking vaccine.

Makers Of Vaccine Refuse To Take H1N1, now added into the 2010-11 flu vaccine.

"Safe and effective", the CDC mantra. Use your own common sense, they have to much to lose by admitting anything. And in 2009 FEMA had in place the laws and the means to force vaccinations if H1N1 had started to cause death on a larger scale than it did. In the very least it was set into place where you would not have been able to enter public places without proof of being so called vaccinated; had that happened as said on a larger scale than what was. Luckily by far enough sheeple lined up to take the shots; to have likely avoided having anything being forced anyway. That scenario is where it all could go, depending on the outcome of what takes place with any given new flu virus, or if it mutates or moves through drift to a more virulant version. Ask, where that virus came from? Research it a little.

Monday, December 06, 2010

Response to: Mr. Hubbs Convoluted Idea Of "Research"


Found here:

Well Costner, here you go again spreading more lies and false information. And where did you get that email? Vuong didn't give you that email, as I know the entire story on that as I told you. You clearly hacked that email message out of my email account. Think that would deserve any investigation? And you are not connected to any hacking nor anything else. As the author of that blog, you are clearly lying.

Really now Costner, and you know very well that if you actually linked to this reply blog, (which you never have, nor will), that honest people would then see just how bogus your claims really are. Just like on the Argus Leader - Voices section, no matter what was shown to you, you came right back on making the same false claims, and that no proof science had been presented. Same style and the same nature of statements.

Your beloved mockery of fact, only mocks the children that have died and been damaged by vaccines. Do you think after what I have been through, (and you do know), that I am even concerned enough about what you say in your blog, to even matter to me personally? No matter how many sick pictures you create. And how about that one by my front door, where did you get that, it had been deleted from any accounts I have for almost 2 years. You are very sick indeed. It may be only my opinion, but I think theres is a special place for you in hell. Right along side Paul Offit, Orac, Gorski and of course, Adolf Hitler and others.

You have never put forth any medical degree that you might have, and as well in the fact that you never have even put forth any identity yourself ever. Dont you think thats a little strange, and as well in the fact that if you were and are so correct; why would you need to hide like that?

I challenge you again to link to this blog and the website, on your blog. if you can not do that, you have no business making the false claims that you do. You do not want anyone knowing there is a reply blog, that would be far to embarrassing for you. But oh, thats right, you have no identity; so for you.... who cares. All done from your side from an undisclosed identity. How's that.. for some real credibility?

By the way, do you want to see some more endless examples of vaccine failure that have existed everywhere??? How many of those have I shown you previously; and those were additional to these!!! It sure is worth injecting all those toxic poisons for an outcome like that, isn't it? And why does the CDC refuse to address that, falsely blaming the unvaccinated kids and parents?

What Is Vaccine Failure?

Articles tagged with "vaccine failure."

The Herd Immunity Theory - Treating Our Children Like Cattle.

The herd immunity theory was originally coined in 1933 by a researcher called Hedrich. He had been studying measles patterns in the US between 1900-1931 (years before any vaccine was ever invented for measles) and he observed that epidemics of the illness only occurred when less than 68% of children had developed a natural immunity to it. This was based upon the principle that children build their own immunity after suffering with or being exposed to the disease. So the herd immunity theory was, in fact, about natural disease processes and nothing to do with vaccination. If 68% of the population were allowed to build their own natural defences, there would be no raging epidemic.

Later on, vaccinologists adopted the phrase and increased the figure from 68% to 95% with no scientific justification as to why, and then stated that there had to be 95% vaccine coverage to achieve immunity. Essentially, they took Hedrich’s study and manipulated it to promote their vaccination programmes.

"We have all the science, you don't understand the scientific method" [How many times have I heard that - in denial garbage]?

Don’t Give This to Your Daughter – Despite What Your Doctor Says

Some Men You Just can't reach

Guns n Roses Civil war lyrics

Are Vaccines a Gift From God???  [Great article].

[Excerpt]: No matter how obvious the true cause of so much human misery becomes – that people are actually being sickened and immunosuppressed by vaccines and drugs – the pharma-faithful can’t see the cause. Here’s why: Doctors are the modern day priests and priestesses, anointing their followers with prescriptions. The priests are infatuated with and addicted to the power endowed to them. They strut about, cock-sure that they were rightly taught the one and only true form of medicine, and they are fulfilling their service to humanity. They have been successfully ordained into the Brotherhood. They have no intentions of doubting or abandoning their programming, even when they witness someone healing without drugs, or being healthy without vaccines. Where would they be if they realized that the earth would be better off without their temples and holy water? They are unintentionally dependent on their devotees’ illnesses and on the system that taught them to spar with disease rather than heal it. The temple of mirrors is filled with smoke, and creates illusions that will keep the sick coming back for more.

Are vaccines to blame for infant deaths?

Brian and Shelly Walker - Did Vaccines Kill?

Toxic Vaccines Cause SIDS
By Ingri Cassel (

February 22, 2008
Vaccines Do Cause SIDS - three babies in the same location highly suggests and indicates a hot lot. Although a hot lot is not neccesary to cause SIDS, it just makes it more apparent the cause.

Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) & "Hot Lots"

Upon further investigation when the VAERS computer data became available through the Freedom of Information Act, we found (1) a lack of reporting by health care providers; (2) a lag time between when the adverse event occurred and when the report is filed; (3) data entry errors; (4) duplicate reports; (5) inadequate follow-up by the government of reported serious injuries and deaths; (6) many lots with very high numbers of reports; and (7) no recall of any lot of vaccine. We do not know how many doses of vaccine are in each lot because the FDA and the drug companies do not release this information to the public. Therefore, it is impossible to precisely compare one lot to another for reactivity
Read more:

Vaccine Hot lots

Cluster of "SIDS" deaths in north Idaho prompt parents to blame vaccines; doctors, government deny vaccine link.

The deaths of three infants in Coeur d’Alene in September and October, 2007, within a few days of their four- month vaccines, prompted one of the mothers to fight back.


A visit to the "doctor"Vance received a shot of Pediarix, a 5-in-1 shot for diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B and polio; a shot of Prevnar, seven pneumococcal viruses plus diphtheria toxoid and; Rotateq, the new rotavirus vaccine given orally and containing four viruses associated with infant diarrhea. That adds up to 19 different pathogens given to a four-month-old infant in less than 15 minutes when you consider that Pediarix contains three polio strains.

Mothers statement and question. "It was the vaccines, wasn’t it?" "Was THIS the damn vaccines"?

When Brian and Shelly were in the emergency room still in a state of shock, Shelly blurted out, "It was the vaccines, wasn’t it? Was this from the damn vaccines?"

When her desperate plea for confirmation was met with denial and attempts to comfort her, a seed was planted that has since grown into a force that has become public health’s worse nightmare – more and more parents speaking out as a result of their own tragic experience with the devastation caused by vaccines.

SIDS sudden infant death syndrome.

Sudden infant death remains the leading cause of death for infants aged one month to one year of age. It was nearlu unheard of prior to the steady increase in number of vaccines. Ask your grandparents as well! This NOT some new genetic disorder previously unheard of. Just like they falsely try to blame autism on genetics, with no studies to actually back it. 1 minute 40 seconds.

(Part 1 of 3)(subtitled) Vaccines, Autism and the Solution. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

(Part 2 of 3) Vaccines, Autism and the Solution. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Part 3 of 3) Vaccines, Autism and the Solution. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Vaccines, Autism and the Solution: (response to question 2) Part 1 . Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Vaccines, Autism and the Solution: (response to question 2) Part 2. Featuring Dr. A Moulden

Dr. Andrew Moulden at the "Save Canada - stop the SPP" rally. [Telling it like it is]! "Vaccines. This is a global problem, a global phenomonen, that they... know about"! [Listen closely]!   

Vaccination - The Hidden Truth - trailer

Baby died after received Hepatitis B vaccine.

GSK Pneumonia Vaccine Trial

Inside The Mystery Placebos.

Gardasil as well, used an aluminum containing placebo, and as well one with the carrier agent in it. That is not a placebo, and not a comparison; no wonder it got fast tracked and now does so much damage. ["They have ALL the science"?]

August 30, 2008  Polysorbate 80 and Histidine, a marriage of disaster.

Gardasil® HPV vaccine: Cancer cause or Cancer preventive?

"Nothing... is enough".

Now, lets go to some of the statements made in this referenced to blog above.

This is a prime example of how Mr. Hubbs shows us that his idea of "research" involves sitting in front of a computer and reading various blogs or websites from anti-vaccination drones or accepting unsubstantiated statements from self-proclaimed experts who claim they can cure autism or have a 100% success rate curing cancer, but who are never able to prove their claims with reputable scientific studies.

Reply: Would these testimonials mean anything to you? No, you would rather let people suffer needlessly through surgery, chemo., radiation, and often death, than to accept that any natural treatments have worked for decades. Just to save that false image of modern medicine as the only way there is and maintaining the false savior you have image you have. Apparently and obviously you have no compassion at all for these vaccine damaged and autistic children!!!!! Biomedical treatment works, and it has been proven to work in far larger numbers than you will ever admit. You have seen thia information, and yet remain in complete lying denial. The philosophy is “if they cannot deny the message, then they will discredit the messenger.” This is simply how the system works.

Biomedical Treatment

The real way to health care; not pharma's way. Getting to the real cause.

A great quote:

"You can't convince the (CDC) this is right. Do you know why? Because
they already know it. They told me they know it. They can not admit it
because of the civil and criminal potential problems. You can't
convince someone who already knows it".

Mark Geir, MD Chicgo, Illinois
May 30th, 2004 @Autism One Conference.

Here is the reply the second half of that above statement.

What is Cancer and What Causes It?

Nutrition and Cancer: A Review of the Evidence for an Anti-Cancer Diet
Published: 20 October 2004 Nutrition Journal 2004, 3:19 doi:10.1186/1475-2891-3-19
This article is available from:

Excerpt from the conclusion.

As reviewed above, reductions of 60 percent in breast cancer rates have already been seen in human diet studies, and a 71 percent reduction in colon cancer for men without the known modifiable risk factors. These reductions are without taking into account many of the other factors considered in this review, such as markedly increased fruit and vegetable intake, balanced omega 3 and 6 fats, vitamin D, reduced sugar intake, probiotics, and enzymes – factors which all are likely to have an impact on cancer. Certainly cancer prevention would be possible, and cancer reversal in some cases is quite likely.

With 239 references to dietary effects on cancer.

How Important is Vitamin D for Your Health? Let Us Count the Ways .... Journal Articles Over 800 References Showing Vitamin D’s Effectiveness for Cancer.

Testimonials in recovery from many other health issues that are commonly prescribed toxic drugs for in the main stream avenue of it.

So what do you actually have here then... Costner? Just more harrasement of truth and fact, as always? More damage control? Of course, that's all you know!

Next statement:

The reality is, true medical research and knowledge is not gained by parroting statements of others (which may or may not even be based upon fact).  True research is done by those in the field and in the lab who are working with these issues as a career rather than a hobby.  If and when a breakthrough is made or a discovery is reached, these experts don't run out and blog about it or make bold claims to the public, because they know no outcome is considered proven science until it can be fully and accuarately replicated.

Reply: If that is true then they wouldn't be reversing diabtes as well at Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center in Arizona; while Sanford health is still looking for a cure in the pharmacuetical field. This was done by Gerson Insitute in the 1930's and the powers that be within the AMA ran them off into Mexico. Oh, no information is ever controlled nor suppressed. If you claim to believe that, it is only because you must deny it.

21 day reversing diabetes plan, [It is amazing how many foods can be made raw].

Gerson Insitute

And Sanford is still looking for a pharmaceutical drug to do the same thing!? Ignorance is bliss for them; but what about those who are suffering with this autoimmune disorder in ever increasing numbers that need real help... now? Do they deserve the truth? Never, ever look for the real cause, nor prevention?

Raw For 30 Days trailer

Healing Cancer from Inside Out [Part 1 and 2]


If I personally had cancer, and very good ways exist to avoid it; I would add this as well; there is no frigen way I would touch chemo. and radiation. Also has shown to work well in capsule form known as E-Tea. Although there are many other choices as well that can used or added in.

Discovered among the Ojibway indians in 1922, our alternative herbal remedy is made with herbs. The primary herbs in the Essiac formula are Sheep Sorrel, Burdock Root, Slippery Elm Bark and Rhubarb Root. Four other herbs, kelp, red clover, blessed thistle and watercress, are added in small amounts. We use only Organic and Wildcrafted herbs.

Rene Caisse. Essiac: Cancer Cure? Part1 of 4

What is Essiac? If you go here you can easily identify why and what properties make it work.

The History of Essiac.

Renae Cassie, R.N.

The Truth About Essiac


More insane and in denial comments from that said blog.

This is why the scientific community relies so heavily upon peer-reviewed science.  Anyone can make a claim, and anymore can claim they are able to prove such a claim, but fortunately for modern academia it isn't acceptable to merely take someone's word for it.  When it comes to matters of science and matters of fact, the conclusions and outcomes of studies need to be examined, verified, challenged, and yes authenticated.  Only when facts are double and triple checked, and only when statements and theories are examined by one's peers and validated to be accurate can we accept them as fact.

Reply: Is that why modern medicine remains the 3rd leading cause of death in the US; it surely doesn't appear that-that peer review so called scientific process is working very well! For who would it be working for? Pharma? Who does it benefit the most; certainly not the public!

You have already had this put forth to you once, and I linked it to you, yet you keep as always putting forth more of your delusions, more lying and more denial; nothing is enough.

Modern Medicine Facts - And with the definitive proof studies as to what they have created.

The 3rd Leading Cause, originally published in the AMA Journal

The philosophy is “if they cannot deny the message, then they will discredit the messenger.” This is simply how the system works.

Health freedom attorney Jonathan Emord speaks out about Obama health care, the US Constitution, and the Supreme Court.  
Learn more:

Interview with Jonathan Emord about the US Constitution and Obama's health care reform. [If you want to understand what is wrong with and going on in modern medicine today, listen to this audio interview].

Excerpt: U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson ruled that a key provision in Obama's health care plan violates the US Constitution. The Health Ranger spoke with health freedom attorney Jonathan Emord to get a legal opinion on the matter. In this interview, you'll hear about the Supreme Court, the Constitution, the overreaching power grab of Big Government, why Obamacare is illegal, and why the government cannot be allowed to force American citizens to buy products or services the people don't want (or need).

Following the interview, you'll hear additional commentary from Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.

Total proof of the corruption in main stream medicine science. So much for use of that scientific method!

FDA “Corruption” Letter Authenticated:

Excerpt: The letter made headlines when it was sent last year to John Podesta of Obama’s transition team.

Written by a group of scientists on FDA letter head — but with their names blacked out for fear of retaliation — the letter describes a nightmare of bungling and self-dealing among higher-ups at the drug safety agency. It begs Obama to step in and reform the shop: … many other FDA managers who have failed to protect the American public, who have violated laws, rules, and regulations, who have suppressed or altered scientific or technological findings and conclusions, who have abused their power and authority, and who have engaged in illegal retaliation against those who speak out, have not been held accountable and remain in place.

FDA Scientists Ask Obama to Restructure Drug Agency.

FDA Scientists Accuse Agency of Corruption, Intimidation.

FDA Scientists Describe Corruption to Obama Transition Team

Scientists Accuse Own Administration of Corruption, Intimidation and Scientific Censorship

FDA Scientists Revolt Against Corrupt Food and Drug Administration Officials


This letter seeks your urgent intervention because serious misconduct by managers of
the U.S.

Food and Drug Administration (FDA) at the Center for Devices and Radiological Health (CDRH)
is interfering with our responsibility to ensure the safety and effectiveness of medical devices for
the American public and with FDA's mission to protect and promote the health of all Americans.
Managers at CDRH have failed to follow the laws, rules, regulations and Agency Guidance to
ensure the safety and effectiveness of medical devices and consequently, they have corrupted the
scientific review of medical devices. This misconduct reaches the highest levels of CDRH management including the Center Director of the Office of Device Evaluation (ODE).

FDA's own scientists report pattern of intimidation, censorship and scientific fraud that undermines public safety

The FDA Exposed: An Interview With Dr. David Graham, the Vioxx Whistleblower

WHO issues warning about corruption of pharmaceutical industry

Bribery in medicine: How drug authorities, Big Pharma pushers and other medical racket operators forfeit ethics for power and profits

Ending the Atrocities of the FDA; Life Extension Urges Immediate Petition Action for Health Freedom

Federal Government-Funded Study Fails to Recognize Value of Vitamin D 

Pharmaceutical Terrorism!

Deadly Medicine.

Just like vaccines, they will never care what the truth is, nor admit it! Think of the implications..if they did.
Mike Adams of Natural News:

Here's my report on this breaking news, along with the truth about the dangers of mercury fillings and why dentists keep pushing toxic heavy metals even when they know they're harming little children:


Let's take a closer look at that pharma science...and as to one of the leading pharmaceutical drugs prescribed across the country today, cholesterol lowering statin drugs.

Cholesterol Facts.

Cholesterol is a versatile compound that is vital to the function of the human body and just like everything else; cholesterol levels differ greatly among individuals. In humans, cholesterol serves 5 main functions:

1. Cholesterol is used by the body to manufacture steroids, or cortisone-like hormones, including the sex hormones. These hormones include testosterone, estrogen and cortisone.

2. Cholesterol helps the liver produce bile acids. These acids are essential for digestion of fats and ridding the body of waste.

3. Cholesterol acts to interlock "lipid molecules," which stabilize cell membranes. Therefore, cholesterol is the vital building block for all bodily tissues.

4. Cholesterol is an essential part of the myelin sheath. The myelin sheath, similar to the coating on copper wire, ensures that the brain functions properly by aiding the passage of electrical impulses. Without the myelin sheath, it is difficult to focus and we can lose memory.

5. And finally, cholesterol has beneficial effects on the immune system. Men with high cholesterol have stronger immune systems than those with low cholesterol, as can be seen by the fact that they have more lymphocytes, total T-cells, helper T-cells and CD8+ cells.  Many strains of bacteria, which cause us to get sick, are almost totally inactivated by LDL cholesterol.

Lowering such a vital molecule might be considered suicide in slow motion. To illustrate, imagine that your house represents your body and the nails holding it together, cholesterol. Now start pulling just a few nails out of the house. What happens? The house turns to a pile of rubble. The same is true for the human body.


Here is as well why you wouldn't want to do that. In modern medicine they refuse to address the true cause; thus they will never have any cures! Thus as well they can keep selling sickness and disease, and as well creating more chronic illness and disease.

Medical myths explained: Why health researchers mistakenly think one disease causes another.

Learn more:

The Great Cholesterol Lie.

Dr. Dwight Lundell

Cardiovascular and Thoracic Surgeon
25 Years Pioneer – Pioneer in “Off-Pump” heart surgery reducing surgical complications and recovery times.
Phoenix List Top 10 Doctors – Ten Years
Performed Over  5,000 Heart Surgeries

His work below:

The Cholesterol Lie Exposed

Artery Inflammation – The Real Silent Killer

The Great Cholesterol Lie Review.

The Cholesterol Lie: What Your Doctor Doesn't Know

"You're About to Discover What Causes Heart Disease ...And, It's NOT Cholesterol!"

Utter Madness! 75% Of All Heart Attack Victims Have Normal Cholesterol!

The Great Statin Scam

Modern Medicine Hilariously Claims Credit for Reduction in Heart Disease Deaths.

Cholesterol Theory – A Tragedy To Health

The Cure For Heart Disease


Cry For Vaccine Freedom Wall

Institute of Medicine (IOM) Reports-Vaccines

ABC News Autism 2000, (Wakefield). Listen to that crap, he has not established any causal relation at all. (Anyone who has followed the real information and further studies, knows what they have ignored and covered up).

Congressman Dan Burton 2002  ("9 shots in one day, and now his grandson is autistic). Other videos videos by Mr. Burton on the right sidebar. [Nothing is enough]. Hell can't be even half full.

Merck Vaccine Chief Brings HIV/AIDS to America.

Welcome to the NVIC Advocacy Portal (NVICAP)

"All internet.... myths and conspiracy theories." "We at pharma, the FDA and CDC, have all the science".

Some Men You Just can't reach

Ok, lets look at the rest of these statements.

However in the mind of Mr. Hubbs, fact doesn't require such scrutiny.  It is more than sufficient to read a blog or a website and the statements of a profitteering alternative medicine practitioner and accept what they say at face value.  Mr. Hubbs doesn't have the critical thinking ability nor the scientific background to understand that this is not how science works, but that doesn't stop him from pretending what some of these people say is factual.

Reply: See, here you go again attempting to mislead the public - that your pharma science is actually worth anything. How much credibility does that science have when you can see the information listed above, and as to the FDA as well? It seems that by the looks of THIS counter blog that is in reply to yours; it is in all truth and fact... YOU that lacks that critical thinking ability. Flat out lying as always - doesn't take much of that! Why is it then that you refuse to link to this blog or the site, on your blog. That answer is obvious; there is just to much truth.... here.

Next clueless statement:

Rather than attempt to prove any of these statements or hypothesis, the anti-vaccination types fall back upon that old tired line that they are unable to publish their findings because they wouldn't be accepted in any medical journal.  Mr. Hubbs himself often repeats this excuse when pressed for evidence and he attempts to make claims about the flow of scientific information is controlled by "big pharma" or that the AMA et al would never allow such studies to be published because it would harm industry profits.

Reply: The fact is there is enough actual reputable proof science and information posted on this blog and on my site to be more than enough for anyone... but you. Again, as always, you are lying! You would link to that, if it were not there.

Next moronic statement:

Granted when informed that there are hundreds of different scholarly journals published around the globe (many if not most of which are out of the reach of the AMA) and thousands upon thousands of studies published each and every year, Mr. Hubbs keeps finding excuses as to why none of these anti-vaccination "experts" have ever been able to prove any of their findings or publish any of their research in a true peer-reviewed journal.

Reply: Again, there are endless related scientific studies on these blog pages, and as well on my site,  Endless! You have been shown that repeatedly, and yet you keep lying.

Link the public to this blog and to the site above and let the public be the judge of that. What kind of a lying chicken, refuses to do that?

And all of sudden now those journals are good enough for you, and they weren't before? Well, the public can clearly go look at what what I just refered you to! Hows your credibility currently doing, Mr. selectively clueless and in denial... blog writer]?

Next selectively clueless statement:

For Mr. Hubbs it all comes down to money.  He claims there is no money to be made by a natural cure and therefore there is no funding to publish a study which would explain it.  However as I have discussed in the past, this quite simply is not true as there are many research grants available for the independent researcher who wishes to find a cure or new treatment for a disease.

Reply: More bullshit, and you somehow failed to link to any of those sources, nor with any details.

Next uneducated and clueless statement:

Perhaps one of the greatest medical advancements in the past 100 years comes to us from Dr. Jonas Salk who provided us with the world's first polio vaccine.  Did Dr. Salk do his research at the behest of a pharmaceutical company in the name of profits?  Did Dr. Salk become a multi-millionaire from the patent to his vaccine?  Did Dr. Salk only license his vaccine to a specific company and charge an outrageous amount for it in order to pad the company bottom line and his own personal bank account?

The answer to these questions are all no, because not only did Dr. Salk not seek to hide his vaccine from the public, he offered it to all with no profit motive.  In fact when famously asked who owns the patent to the vaccine, Salk responded, "No one. Could you patent the sun?".

Reply 1: Hoooeee, what a twisted web you again weave there...Mr.Brainwashed. You go on writting blog pages not even having looked at what is here on this blog? How many years of your life will you continue to lie about that, and refuse to educate yourself from an unbiased source? And you think that you can just repeatedly pull that off, and noone will be the wiser. Polio vaccine created more polio and paralytic polio than it ever prevented, same as small pox. Just because they covered that up and refused to allow the real history to be known and written in their text books, does not excuse you from not knowing the truth, that when you have had your nose rubbed right in it again and again. 

Reply 2: Noone owned a patent nor made any money on the first polio vaccines, and you are actually THAT delusional?

I will detail that a little more on that polio vaccine truth below.

I will first respond to a remaining statement paragraph of that blog page.

The point is, we as humans all have a desire to create a better society.  Although greed and money are driving factors for many, those who toil away for decades in a lab don't do so for fame or for wealth... they do so in order to make a difference.  There is no greater honor for a scientist that to discover something which can help eliminate disease among mankind or cure the suffering of others, and knowing they made a difference is worth exponentially more than any amount of material wealth could ever be.

Reply: If that were actually true, the FDA would not have banned from use in diagnostic testing the proven techique of darkfield blood microscopy; whcih shows all abnormal aspects to blood in itself and in terms of being very similar to when and while the blood is live and flows. Becamp had this technology nearly 100 years ago; you know the Becamp they refused to write about in your text books?


On this page is some early history of that said diagnostic techinque. Pasteur verses Becamp.

1. Disease arises from micro-organisms originating outside the body.
2. Micro-organisms should be guarded against and destroyed to prevent disease.
3. The appearance and function of specific micro-organisms is constant.
4. Every disease is associated with a particular micro-organism.
5. Micro-organisms are primary causal agents.
6. Disease is inevitable and can 'strike' anyone at any time.
7. To prevent and cure diseases, it is necessary to 'build defenses' and to destroy pathogens.

1. The susceptibility to disease arises from conditions within the body.
2. Micro-organisms are beneficial and life-sustaining if the body is kept clean of toxins
3. The appearance and function of specific micro-organisms changes when the host organism is injured, either mechanically, biochemically, or emotionally.
4. Every disease is associated with a particular condition of toxic buildup.
5. Micro-organisms become associated with disease only when the cells become toxified.
6. Disease arises from conditions of increased toxicity.
7. Preventing or curing disease consists of cleaning toxicity harmlessly.

Who's theory did the Rockefellers run with? The one that would make allot of money. Why do you see nothing about that in your medical text books? They knew.

Louis Pasteur vs. Antoine Bechamp: Know the True Causes of Disease

Is Modern Medicine Founded on Error?

Evidence-based vaccinations: A scientific look at the missing science behind flu season vaccines

Polio Vaccine Truth

Here is how well polio vaccine has protected the population, past and present!

Nigeria struck by a polio epidemic caused by vaccination.

Nigeria Sees Polio Outbreak from Mutated Vaccine Virus.

Excerpt: The new figure is double the 62 vaccine-derived cases reported in the
country last year, and marks the continuation of the longest
vaccine-derived polio outbreak ever seen, beginning in 2006, according
to Oliver Rosenbauer, spokesman for World Health Organization's Polio
Eradication Initiative.

The oral vaccine contains weakened live polio virus to build immunity
in the patient, but can spread from a vaccinated person to the
unvaccinated public and grow more virulent. If it is not contained and
is allowed to mutate for months, it can grow strong enough to cause

Polio surge in Nigeria after vaccine virus mutates

Polio outbreak in Nepal - ALL cases are in vaccinated kids

Widespread Transmission of Paralytic Polio Amongst Fully Vaccinated
Children in Oman, [with 27 related article references to other world
wide vaccine failures].

Then for more: go and google it, and find out how many countries they are
currently and actively now conducting massive polio vaccine campaigns
in; it is endless. What in the hell is so hard about bringing to them
adequate sanitation, and some decent food, as well as a few semi loads
of vitamins A, D, and C. What the F, that won't make any money on
vaccines? Are you nuts? Correcting the real problem... costs money!!!!
If you think polio was wiped out by the vaccine, then get into this
reading right here. Take your blinders off for long enough to get some
basic historical education.

How a Continuing Polio Epidemic is being Hidden

The real info and graphs.

And this in the below link is the bullshit that the mainstream puts
out there. They deny the already major decline in polio prior to the
vaccine, due to as well better sanitation, the stoppage of use of DDT.
Whole scale removal of toncils in that day, depleting natural immune
reserves and consumption of sugar played a major role as well. They
deny the increases in polio after advent of the vaccine, in fact
nothing is mentioned of it, nor even of the Cutter incident. Yes, the
entire population has been mislead, lied to, and brainwashed.

You can talk all the shit you want about It is a large and damning account of the historical facts. You must deny it!

If they can not address nor deny the message, they must falsley attack and discredit the messenger. And what have you done, in every last case? I am sure you can find another $5000 to take me out; being you can actually and honestly debate nor refute me here either?

The Cutter  incident, 1955


Polio and Tonsillectomies

Pesticides and Polio: A Critique of Scientific Literature

Polio and DDT

Causes & co-factors of polio quotes.

Vaccine (and antibiotic injections) associated paralytic Poliomyelitis - citations

Provocation polio


Nervous system disease & vaccination

Hiding Polio quotes.

Excerpts: Statistics on polio were manipulated. One such way was to
redefine the disease, renaming it "viral or aseptic meningitis" or
"cocksackie virus". In one US county, for example, in July 1955 there
were 273 cases of polio reported for 50 cases of asceptic meningitis,
compared to 5 cases of polio in 1966 and 256 cases of aseptic
meningitis. These new diagnostic guideline's were issued by the CDC.
If you object to polio vaccination, and you get polio--it is usually
called "polio." If you have been vaccinated and you get "polio", it is
called meningitis.

These days, when a vaccinee develops poliomyelitis, it may not be
called poliomyelitis; instead, it may be called viral or aseptic
meningitis, ascending paralysis (Guillain-Barre syndrome), cerebral
palsy (over 75 per cent of cases are not diagnosed at birth but after
six months) or other such names. According to MMWR (1997;
32[29]:384-385), there are 30,000 to 50,000 cases of aseptic
meningitis every year in the United States. Considering that the vast
majority (99 per cent) of the reported cases in the pre-vaccine era
were non-paralytic and would have corresponded to aseptic or aviral
meningitis, then vaccination has actually increased the incidence of
poliomyelitis. In the pre-vaccine era, such high numbers only occurred
in some epidemics. Now, such numbers occur every year, year by year.

"Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a
redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic
meningitis.......According to one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR,
there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis per year in
the United States alone.  That's where all those 30,000 - 50,000 cases
of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination"---Viera Scheibner

This information contains an actually massive level of actual polio,
and polio vaccine historical history, world wide. And who else is
going to admit to and show you that real history? The CDC?


SV-40 Cancer Causing Money Virus In FDA Approved Polio Vaccines.

Rogue virus in the vaccine: Early polio vaccine harbored virus now
feared to cause cancer in humans.

 A growing number of medical researchers fear that a monkey virus that
contaminated polio vaccine given to tens of millions of Americans in
the 1950s and '60s may be causing rare human cancers. For four
decades, government officials have insisted that there is no evidence
the simian virus called SV40 is harmful to humans. But in recent
years, dozens of scientific studies have found the virus in a steadily
increasing number of rare brain, bone and lung-related tumors - the
same malignant cancer SV40 causes in lab animals.

Even more troubling, the virus has been detected in tumors removed
from people never inoculated with the contaminated vaccine, leading
some to worry that those infected by the vaccine might be spreading


Dr. Maurice Hilleman, explains why Merck's vaccines have spread cancer causing SV 40, AIDS & other plagues worldwide


To his credit, Dr. Hilleman, (a lead researcher at Merck), repeatedly
sounded warnings about the risks inherent in the use of monkey tissue
for vaccine production. For example, he has made the following
comments " ...use of tissues of wild-caught animals is just asking for
trouble because of the lack of control and the known high proability
for viral contamination. Monkeys are too expensive to be grown in
specific pathogen-free colonies and, hence, the simple solution to the
monkey problem is to eliminate the monkey" and also "The tissues of
wild-caught animals, and certainly monkeys, are commonly infected with
wild viruses. The simplest way to solve the monkey problem is to
eliminate the monkeys and this is being done using diploid cells.
Monkey tissues came into use by historic decisions to use monkey
kidney to make poliovaccine. There is no need to continue using
monkeys when acceptible alternatives are available. This advice was
never taken especially in the face of pressure from Lederle/American
Cyanamid to continue to use monkeys.

And this in the below link is the bullshit they will tell you concerning SV40;
no mention of all the cancerous tumors SV 40 has been isolated from since
the polio vaccine was known contaminated. It has still been found found in
children with cancer today.

Vaccines Dark Inferno

And here more bull crap from the IOM. "We don't know... for sure"? And what has been done since? Nothing!

Immunization Safety Review: SV40 Contamination of Polio Vaccine and Cancer

Simian Virus 40 (SV40)

Are you aware that the Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) administered from 1962
- 1999 contained a monkey virus that could cause cancer?

Workshop on Simian Virus-40 (SV-40) A Possible Human Polyomavirus.

In June 1994, NVIC sent a letter to HHS Secretary Donna Shalala in
which we reviewed documented evidence that polio vaccines have been
contaminated with simian viruses and that, not only has the public not
been adequately informed of this fact, but little has been done to
determine whether this contamination has impacted negatively on the
public health. In our letter we reviewed an article published in the
March 1992 issue of The Lancet in which attorney Walter Kyle provided
evidence that the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) may have been
created after simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) entered the human
population when African green monkey kidney tissues infected with SIV
were used to produce polio vaccines. The Kyle article pointed out that
scientists at the Food and Drug Administration and within industry
suspected as early as the 1950's and knew, by the mid-1970's, that
polio vaccine had been contaminated with simian viruses and that at
least one of these monkey viruses - SV-40 - was later found to cause
leukemia and cancerous tumors in lab animals.

In the September 1995 issue of THE VACCINE REACTION
published by NVIC, we reported that California pathologist and
immunologist W. John Martin, M.D., Ph.D., had published evidence
that he had discovered an atypical virus infecting some children and adults,
who are suffering from neurological, immune and psychiatric dysfunction,
which is genetically linked to the African green monkey.

 After eight years of work culturing out stealth viruses from patients
suffering from immune and brain dysfunction, Martin and his colleagues
 reported  they used DNA sequence analysis to identify one of the viruses
 as being  of African green monkey origin. Dr. Martin subsequently made a
presentation at a Vaccine Safety Forum Workshop at the Institute of
Medicine in November 1995 expressing his concern about possible
contamination of polio vaccines with simian viruses and the need to
immediately determine the prevalence of stealth viruses of simian
origin in the U.S. population and whether these stealth viruses may be
contributing to chronic immune system and brain disorders in children
and adults.

Vaccine Contamination: Pig Virus DNA Found in Rotarix

Vaccine Safety Critics Call For RotaTeq Vaccine Recall & Clean-Up


FDA Proposes Dangerous Vaccine Rule Change

Vaccines’ Dark Inferno. What is not on insert labels?
by Richard Gale and Dr Gary Null

Vaccines ARE a proven science, safe and effective???? They have saved
us... all? FROM ....WHAT?

Human Fetal Cell Lines In Vaccines, Dr .Todd Elsner, DC

A Review of Dr. Todd Elsner’s “What the Pharmaceutical Companies Don’t Want
You to Know About Vaccines”

Todd Elsner: Website

Beyond Thimerosal: Exposing Aluminum – A crippling and neurologically
debilitating vaccine adjuvant

Aluminum and Vaccine Ingredients: What Do We Know? What Don’t We Know?
(With a list of 13 references).

Here is what we do know!  The smoking GUN!
Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult

Over 600 mcg. aluminum in Gardasil.

Universal Hepatitis B Vaccination: A Moratorium Should Be Placed on this

School Nurses Speak Out on Hepatitis B Vaccine

Hepatitis B Vaccination in Newborns

Pregnancy and the Myth of Influenza Vaccination-Is it safe, is it effective,
is it necessary?  27 references.

Warning, Gardasil May Cause Increased Risk of Cervical Cancer, by 44.6 %are not looking.

FDA Requests Meeting With Activists Exposing Gardasil Adverse Reactions.
(And what was done? Again... nothing).

Cervical Cancer Vaccine Documents Presented to FDA Show Evidence of Harm.

Gardasil is Dangerous As Well As Unproven

CDC Looking to Expand HPV Vaccine


If you haven't, review this again; that is absolutely damning information and they continue to ignore it. This is not new information; it has been looked at and known for years.

Are vaccines to blame for infant deaths?

So many of them, and what do they get? An autopsy that is either undetermined for cause, or listed anything but the real cause, vaccines. That even though the listed cause directly points at vaccines. The high pitched screaming, the brain and neurological damage. If they live, the older infants and children, they have seizure disorders and are set back in their milestones never to recover.  

The Amish Community, Homefirst, headed by long time doctor Mayer Eisenstein. 36,000 plus files vaccine choice, and all of them without vaccines. No autism, no SIDS, no epidemics of asthma, diabetes, ADD/ADHD, nor any childhood cancer.  Infants have died by the thousands of them across this country, and they still claim they have no definitive cause. They are guessing that it is in the way they sleep.

You should be interested in history, you seem to be somewhat. In your mothers day did they ever witness SIDS anywhere? No. Do you ever look at the obituaries and wonder what thsoe small children and babies actually died of? The larger city cemetaries are all carrying some of those children. Does it even matter to you the death and damage Gardasil has caused, even that much; you cold hearted denialist!

As Dr Moulden explained it before he was effectively silenced last spring, SIDS is due to ishemia in the brain stem caused by the aluminum and other toxins in the vaccines that create blood sludging and effectively ischemic stokes. Why havent the MRI results of children revealed this finding? It has, and the result if they live is hypoxia. What is hypoxia, it is the regrowth of micro blood vessels into the damaged area of the brain. It has shown all along, they just did not know what they were actually looking at.In fact the diagnosis and treatments used, often only made the siutation worse, and even bleeding into the brain.

You are a scientist you say; and what do you study...plants and insects. There is very little incentive, use or need for corruption in that field, like there is in so called medical circles and pharma. This corruption has beeen there for 100 years, and you refuse to review it and realize it. Your responses are a worthless as to fact as anything could get. Purely sick.

~Kaitlin Alexa Dial~ My daughter who died of SIDS

Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and Vaccines

No association to found to anything ever, not SIDS, not Gardasil, not autism, not anything. No matter if it is the FDA or CDC!

by: Scheibner, Viera, Ph.D.

Viera Scheibner, Ph.D. articles and papers

Check out some of those quotes as well! Real life means nothing to a claimed scientist unwilling to see reality.

Shaken Baby Syndrome
--The Vaccination Link--
by Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.


Shaken Baby Syndrome

There is now way there can be that much information, and no connection found!
Cluster of "SIDS" deaths in north Idaho prompt parents to blame vaccines; doctors, government deny vaccine link

The deaths of three infants in Coeur d’Alene in September and October, 2007, within a few days of their four- month vaccines, prompted one of the mothers to fight back.

Are vaccines to blame for infant deaths? Now after reading that article, view that video again!

Letters: Doctors reversing autism

April 7, 2009

Toxic Vaccines Cause SIDS
By Ingri Cassel (
February 22, 2008

Vaccines andSudden Infant Death Syndrome Is There a Link?

Is It Child Abuse -- Or Something Else Entirely? Shaken Baby Syndrome.
by Susan Pearce

History Repeats Itself - SIDS

As the writter of that blog, you can support the lies, enjoy every minute of it as you claim to, and decieve the sheeple all you want. However, as for the public and the people actually looking for the needed truth, you are doing more damage to your keeping the truth hidden cause, than you will ever have the honesty to admit.