Thursday, May 09, 2013

Reply to: Guillain-Barré Syndrome and Vaccinations: What Antivaxxers Don't Want You to Know

Friday, May 3, 2013
That's to funny, in your first paragraph you tell of evidence that the flu vaccine, and in that particular 70's situation, it was the swine flu vaccine. And in the very next paragraph you site an obviously highly biased, Journal Clinical Infectious Diseases study, and claim that therefore simply put... there is no evidence linking vaccines to GBS. You just previously cited the fact that vaccines can cause GBS, do you realize that? A simple Pubmed and or a VAERS data search can easily show evidence that vaccines can cause GBS; get real. And it is not rare. Maybe you should call the Mayo Clinic neurologists and actually find out how many cases they see, and what their opinion is on it. There are doctors there that have and do admit the vaccine connection, and to more than just GBS. 

Then you go on to state:

So how do you think antivaxxers would react to such a study? Surely they would at least mention it right?

I would just hate to burst your bubble editor; but we do not site that study because we do not accept highly biased studies, when there are plenty of other studies that indeed highly suggest or do show that vaccines can and do cause GBS. There are as well several inconclusive studies. So, hard and fast, Editor you go right to your said claims, based on one single study? Do you ever consider the bulk of the studies, or any unbiased studies without pharma and CDC connected influence? Instead of taking a small snap shot of a crime scene; wouldn't you attempt to get several pictures of the whole scene? Do you understand my comparison?

GBS is a small part of the whole picture of vaccine harm; and to put it plainly as to the issues we generally have bigger fish to focus on and fry, than to waste a lot of time on the GBS issue; which for most people it would be obvious due to the potential neurological effect of vaccines, how and why vaccines would and could create GBS.

Then you go further down the article to make the same old worn out and false claims as to all of that which has been shown repeatedly to be false information; nothing changes, does it. And who ever said that aluminum in vaccines was a potential killer? You do not even have the issues stated correctly. If I were you I would re-look up what debunked actually means, because I do not think based in reality that you have any actual comprehension of the term. 

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Source: You can read the same reply, there in the reply comments.
http://vaccineconspiracytheorist.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-risk-of-autism-is-not-increased-by.html

Here is your (the) reply (a copy of it) that was sent to you as well on the previous article page; and what are you going to do now? Keep on lying and making more false excuses? 

I am getting more than a little tired of that kind of persistent hypocrisy in your claims, in regard to your own personal attack on me throughout the pages of this blog, and as well in your allowing all the as a fact, slanderous reply comments to be published, that you have. Your continual and false self elevation to some sort of expert here and on these issues, is beyond laughable. A self proclaimed blogging expert with as well absolutely and intentionally, no personal identity. As far as statements of opinion; why is it that you claim to and believe that yours are the only ones that correct; no matter what the subject matter, and no matter how well founded your oppositions claims are.

Look at what you are doing here. All you had to do was publish my original and first reply, and be done with it. But oh no, you refused to do that, and here you are weeks later still avoiding the content of that reply and its reference material. Here you are still making pathetic and repeat false excuses, one after another, for why you could not publish that reply as it was. Here you are as well making reply posting rule after rule, that actually has and had nothing to do with the dis-allowance of that said reply. You simply refuse to allow the truth information and all that unbiased science to be promoted; it is to much truth. Your agenda is NOT truth' and it all to clearly never has been nor ever will be. Your agenda is one of self selective denial.

And don't even go there in any attempt to claim you have not been to my website, as you know exactly what is there, and that is why you refuse to link to any of its pages. You quite clearly used to as well scour the original site in an attempt to find some dirt, and you were never successful. You as well simply refuse to allow any readers know that I have a counter blog to this one, and/or to ever reference to it. What should that tell the readers, when you go on blogging and creating more and more titled blog pages, having never answered to the truth information that exists on that blog? A blog that contains many repeat copies of the rebuttal and correct information replies, you refused to publish on this blog.  

You see what you are avoiding here again is any realization as well of the fact that it is not just one study that is the total of the evidence. It is multiple studies and data all showing the same or similar findings. It is when you put that all together, that you have the total package of realization and understanding. So, what are you doing? You are again censoring the reply information you have been given. I do not find it acceptable, nor do I have any desire whatsoever to play along with your twisted censorship games, Editor.

However, even though I have explained to you the situation, and I could give you dozens of good vaccine harm and ASD related studies, I am going to give you a single study, to see what you come up with. Actually I am going to give you two studies, because they are somewhat interlinked as a basic info package.

The spectrum of ASIA: ‘Autoimmune (Auto-inflammatory) Syndrome induced by Adjuvants







PLoS One. 2009; 4(12): e8382. Published online 2009 December 31.
Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity

Conclusions/Significance

Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality.



By the way; when we get done with this, we can move on to the issue of aluminum vaccine adjuvants, combined with vaccine contamination. Be sure that you as well provide any counter studies in any arguments you make, and just your opinions, are of course, not acceptable. Claims as well from Paul Offit and the CDC, that dietary consumption of mercury and/or aluminum is the same thing as injected forms of it, and claimed to be handled by the human body and detoxed the same way, are as well and of course not acceptable, as it is not backed by any real physiological data nor science.

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"That darn SV40 in the polio vaccine, now with all that monkey DNA in me, its making me scratch my head like a monkey" "And with all those lying claims we made that SV40 caused nothing, there darn sure won't even be any cure for it".  Paul Offit - the CDC's children can safely handle 10,000 vaccines in one day, vaccine man. What a selectively clueless, dooshe.