Reply to: Irony at Work: Andrew Wakefield and Academic Integrity

Thursday, May 23, 2013
Irony at Work: Andrew Wakefield and Academic Integrity
http://vaccineconspiracytheorist.blogspot.com/2013/05/irony-at-work-andrew-wakefield-and.html

The truth is there, the editor. Dr. Andrew Wakefield was never a fraud nor did he ever conduct any fraud. He as a fact was and had to be silenced and falsely discredited by the existing powers at work that be. His known at the time additional and onging work with primates and regarding vaccines, was simply to much potential risk to the CDC and pharma pro-vaccine agenda. They had to make sure that he was as well falsely discredited, and actually sandered enough so that no higher level and accepted journal, would ever publish his studies; just for the sake of how it would look. They did a good job; but in fact everything that was ever put forth claiming fraud, was clearly and indeed fraud in itself. He was guilty of no wrong doing whatso ever, and all diagnostic procedures as well were in fact for the most part standard and accepted diagnostics for any perosn with digestive tract disturbances of that severity; specifically speaking of the children in the 1998 published study.

Everything you should need to know to realize that what I have stated is indeed fact, is found in and on the below site page.

Dr Andrew Wakefield - MMR Vaccine - Truth and Reality http://www.vacfacts.info/dr-andrew-wakefield---mmr-vaccine---truth-and-reality.html

To additionally reply to your reply comments section of your previous page, in regard to the argued points between you, the editor, and Simon Flexcrit, June 19. http://vaccineconspiracytheorist.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-benefits-of-vaccinations-history.html

As far as those of us in the know, in regard to the decline in diseases, we don't use the Obomsawin graphs, due to the reasons of obvious controversy as to it and some claimed to incomplete years of data. Of course they again such as Gorski, have exploited that little issue to their false advantage. It does not necessarily make those graphs incorrect, we just have accessible, better and more complete information. We clearly have enough other and the over-all evidence for our claims, and without it.

The fact is that the Vaclib graphs and data that Simon Flexcrit, in their reply gave you; are NOT even from the Obomsawin graphs. Review it again and check the actual data sources. So why, "the editor", have you yet to this point failed to address those real graphs and the data, and only replaced it with an obviously biased and highly questionable and as said, CDC graph? You only thing you did here was replaced that real data and information, with a single CDC graph that has no historical resource at all, but a claimed to all knowing CDC. This is the best you can do, even by going and quoting the infamous denialist, Gorski?

These below are and were the said sources:

GRAPHICAL EVIDENCE SHOWS VACCINES DIDN'T SAVE US
http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/Vaccines.html

Graphs

Excerpt: The graphs shown here represent the end product of data collected from a large volume of historical sources and show disease patterns and other information from the 1800s to the present day. The over 50 graphs are grouped into a number of categories. Please use the graphs freely to understand the decline of disease over time. If anyone has additional raw data from historical documents please send me feedback, as this is an on going project. Any provided data will be incorporated and provided freely to the public on the site.
http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=8&Itemid=55

Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

THE POLIO VACCINE MYTH
http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/polio.html

Now lets go to the Obomsawin graphs, controversy:

In the Gorski article it states: Note how this graph, unlike all the other graphs used to make the claim that “vaccines didn’t save us” actually uses incidence data, in this case from Canada from 1935 to 1983.

Then in the same said no actual science there, Gorski article; it further goes on to state: I was immediately suspicious of this graph, though. The reason should be obvious; the decline in measles incidence is far too smooth. Measles incidence typically varies greatly from year to year. Note how this graph looks at raw case numbers and shows 40,000 cases of measles in Canada the year before the ten year interruption in the data. All in all, it’s a much clearer representation of the data than the first graph, showing a clear drop that occurred during the ten year period, in the middle of which the measles vaccine was introduced.

What is found in this is just another layer of obvious hypocrisy in it all as to what Gorki presented as counter evidence being a CDC measles graph, with an equally straight and smooth line sharply decending after introduction of the measles vaccine, and with no significant decline prior to the vaccine, and in fact a spike prior to the vaccine. That hypocrisy is found in the earlier found what appears to be a Gorski concession statement; stating that, All in all, it’s a much clearer representation of the data than the first graph, showing a clear drop that occurred during the ten year period, in the middle of which the measles vaccine was introduced.

The fact that all you could produce "the editor" was and to show the so called infectious disease incidence rates, was to produce a single and obviously biased graph, put forth by the CDC, showing simply the measles rates to drop off into the dirt right after the introduction of measles vaccine; would you not call that straight and smooth line, immediately suspicious? One set of rules for you and the acceptable data, and one set of rules for them, right? Your only other reference was an article by the most infamous denialist of all, David Gorski, (aka, Orac), that as well used the same CDC graph.  All of the phony CDC graphs have always shown the same thing; and what real evidence are they based on? They are based on nothing but their own incorrect and unwitting and intentionally incorrect and unwittingly fake numbers. Same thing with the WHO, and where is their actual evidence; there is none. See diseases, now we do not see them, its vaccine smoke and mirrors, magic. It is certainly not science, nor even actual historical record; as the original records in the relevant time period, show entirely a different and opposite story than vaccine success. The articles as well written in those relevant time periods of small pox and polio, and recorded with the true numbers by persons living at the time; also show an opposite story than vaccine success. Your only other evidence, the editor; was only a reference to your own previous blog page. I am wondering if you could create any response at all to any of this, the editor; if not for the availability of going and copying what the gone mad denialist Gorski has written? 

So, to recap this for you, "the editor"; all you could site was a single graph put forth by the CDC, and when you check their references for that graph, they come from nothing but a link to Paul Offits site, which as well has no historical reference, and a link to Stanley A. Plotkin, MD and Walter A. Orenstein, MD, which also have no actual historical reference. So, all that amounts to is the CDC citing themselves as a historical perspective authority. But yet even at that you are jumping at it ready to swipe off the table any and all information that does have a true historical reference background to it, often as well recorded by those that were there at the day and time of such as small pox and polio. Nothing would be enough.

After all the pro-vaccine sides insistance that vaccines have saved millions of lives, thus meaning preventing death; when the time to prove your case comes, all you can do is claim to that the death rates prior to vaccines and after, thus mean absolutely nothing, and begin claiming to that all of it can be explained away by a hodge podge of twisted in denial rhetoric. You the editor, nor anyone else can produce the evidence that vaccines ever caused eradication of any of the so called diseases, such as polio, small pox, nor measles. Your evidence claimed to is all anecdotal, and it is NOT science, nor does it follow any scientific method, and more than any of your vaccine safety and effectiveness claims. Yet when it comes to the vaccine harm done producing more harm than good, you reject both the parental anecdotal evidence, the VAERS evidence, the scientific study evidence, and any evidence of the facts at all, that do not come from the CDC, Offit, and the provaccine side.

How do you call it or that, or see any of this, as any form of an honest and unbiased debate? You say the vaccine truth side is biased, and even hypocrictical, and make endless claims of and as to them, including myself, as to being outright incompetent and crazy. How much time do you and Gorski spend endlessly, angrily and hatefully attacking the credibility of the author, and the messenger of the vaccine truth oppositions information? If you had a solid position, that certainly and obviously would not be necessary. There is as a fact no need for any vaccine truth provider to be biased; as most of us once believed what we were told, that vaccines were safe and effective, and needed resource. None of us would have any reason to trash vaccines, and waste any amount of time doing that; if all we were told, had been true and as CDC advertised. Such is clearly not the case.

Look at the list of vaccine ingredients, and that does not even include the contamination factors that both the CDC and FDA know are present and unresolved, and never will be resolved. Look at the increase in the numbers of vaccines on that CDC schedule; which carry absolutely no legal liability now since 1987. Who's crazy, believing in an obviously could care less about the actual health of children, for pharma profit, program like that? Where are the real safety studies, and the large scale comparison of vaccinated verses entirely unvaccinated health? You rejected all of the studies I have put forth, based on acceptance of being permitted only one study allowed to be put in front of you. I would say that is all the proof anyone would even need to see, that you in reality are clearly not interested at all in the real vaccine truth, but only in denial of all that you can possibly deny.

Here is a statement that you as well made, "the editor".

Measles Incidence Rate

You might also be interested to know that prior to a smallpox vaccine, up to 25% of those infected would actually die from the disease. Yes... 25%! That was happening as recently as the 1950s - so are you going to suggest smallpox was on the decline on its own and that the vaccine had nothing to do with it?

My reply; YES, that is exactly what I am going to not only imply, but state as a fact. When you make wild claims like that, the editor; what is it that makes you think that you would need absolutely no evidence to back those claims up? You claims can be countered one by one as to your endless and twisted ramblings, and as well can be those of one David Gorski. However, they are so endlessly numerous, that a person can only focus on a few highlights at a time.

No evidence proves, really??? The only reason you claim and can even claim to that is that you continually refuse to accept the information and the data. Only provaccine information and data is allowed, in your world. Thus, you will always remain an in denial sheeple; 'the editor", endlessly making denial of the since day one, far more harm than good evidence on and regarding vaccines. First of all you need to understand why the foundations of so called modern (pharma) medicine have been wrong from the start. You refuse as well all of the real and hidden history. That is as a fact not a conspiracy theory, as there is far to much evidence to support what has and can be put forth; and there is not a single reason whatsoever on planet earth for anyone to have ever fabricated any of that real historical record, evidence. Why is all that missing historical information not all in the standard medical text books? For pharma to survive as it is, and for their for profit pharma selling sickness and disease to get a foot hold decades ago and continue, it all had to be wiped from the public knowlege and view. Why in 100 years is there no real understanding of anything regarding actual causation in their circles, and no real cures? Do you really think that is because no such thing exists? But you as well refuse the, and any and all evidence of it. So you ..."the editor", will obviously always remain a pharma mislead and protecting pharma and main stream sheeple, and all by your own mislead and in denial, choice.    

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Well, as this so called debate continued onward in the reply section of "the editors" said blog page, you can see and read his reply to this information, which again and as always essentially ignored everything that has been stated and put forth on that said blog page replies section. This below reply was additionally sent, and nothing would obviously ever be enough for this so called, "the editor".

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 Again editor, you best go back and read what I have just put in front of you, because everyone else can. How many times would you need it to be recapped?

Your CDC source has no historical reference, thus it can not be validated.

Again, and I repeat, the whole premise behind the pro-vaccine, vaccine promoting agenda has been from day one, the claim that vaccines have prevented such horrible and deadly diseases, and with that vaccine sales pitch endlessly fear mongering about the same. Yet you refuse the data and the graphs that show that no such thing actually happened, and as well it clearly puts those said claims to some serious factual and ethical scrutiny. You have nothing to refute that evidence with, and you refuse to admit it.

We are not debating incidence verses death rates, we are debating the value of vaccines as they are CDC advertised, period. That includes the accuracy of what vaccines in complete truth have actually accomplished. You can't have it both ways, just on your own whim of what you are going to allow to be discussed and debated here. And isn't it you that always complains about alleged moving the goal posts? You have continued on here and quite obviously and largely based on what Gorski tells you are the only issues to be allowed discussed. All Gorski's material has ever been is about being a twisting the issues strategist and an in denial advocate on how to avoid the real debate; and that is why you use it. All of it is smoke and mirrors; and about keeping the public mislead.  

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More resources:

Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s
http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

The Vaccine Damage - Science
http://www.vacfacts.info/the-vaccine-damage---science.html

The Unbiased Vaccine Science and Data
http://www.vacfacts.info/the-unbiased-vaccine-science-and-data.html

Current Status of Aluminum Adjuvant Research
http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2013-03-26/current-status-of-aluminum-adjuvant-research/

Vaccines’ Alum Adjuvant Path to Brain Found: Study

Newly published research by Keele Conference scientists shows that aluminum adjuvant in vaccines transfers to the brain. They have documented the path from injection site to the brain, and that once in the brain, it persists. Newborns, the elderly, and people with a certain genetic variation are particularly at risk.

http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2013-04-12/vaccines-alum-adjuvant-path-to-brain-found/

Slow CCL2-dependent translocation of biopersistent particles from muscle to brain

Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23557144
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/11/99

Aluminum Adjuvants - Lack of Safety Data - Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies
http://www.vacfacts.info/aluminum-vaccine-adjuvants.htm

Vaccine Contamination
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-contamination.html

Aborted Fetal Vaccines
http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineinfo.htm

Vaccines using aborted fetal cell lines
http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineListOrigFormat.pdf

June 3, 2010
SCPI Study on Aborted Fetal DNA in Vaccines Presented at International Meeting for Autism Research
http://www.cogforlife.org/scpiautismstudypress.htm

For Scientific Data: Homologous Recombination Study
http://www.cogforlife.org/SCPIIMFARHR.pdf

Vaccine Production With - Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with---human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell---tissue.html

Post Vaccination - Vaccine Targeted Strain - Viral and Bacterial Pathogen - Shedding
http://www.vacfacts.info/post-vaccination-vaccine-targeted-strain---viral-and-bacterial---shedding.html

The False Theory of Vaccine Derived - Herd Immunity
http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-theory-of-vaccine-derived---herd-immunity.html
Callous Disregard
http://www.callous-disregard.com/

Callous Disregard-Supporting Research Studies
http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm

Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)
http://www.vacfacts.info/biomedical-treatment-in-autism-asd.html

New Junk Science Study - No link between 'too many vaccines' and autism risk
http://www.vacfacts.info/new-junk-science-study

Proof that Big Pharma Doesn’t Care About Vaccine Harm, (SIDS deaths and hot lots)
http://www.vacfacts.info/proof-that-big-pharma-doesnrsquot-care-about-vaccine-harm.html

National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program - Payout Data

Now since 1989, and as of Jan. 2013; over 2 trillion dollars have been paid out from this vaccine caused injury and death compensation fund.  $2,550,640,666.73 is the current total figure paid out from this federal court system; which  includes attorney fees, (paid out, win or lose the case). Since the first Vaccine Injury Compensation claims were made in 1989, 3,110 compensation payments have been made, $2,389,329,250.45 disbursed to petitioners and $94,604,103.72 paid to cover attorney’s fees and other legal costs.

To date, 9,785 claims have been dismissed. Of those, 3,982 claimants were paid $52,680,057.05 to cover attorney’s fees and other legal costs

http://www.vacfacts.info/national-vaccine-injury-compensation-program---payout-data.html

Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

Paul Offit - Falsely Defends Thimerosal
http://www.vacfacts.info/paul-offit---falsely-defends-thimerosal.html

Vaccine Quackery and Harm - Proven - Plain and Simple
http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-quackery-and-harm---proven---plain-and-simple.html

Gardasil-The Real Truth
http://www.vacfacts.info/gardasil---the-real-truth.html

FDA Reply Letter - and Further Questions Raised on Gardasil
http://www.vacfacts.info/fda-reply-letter---and-further-questions-raised-on-gardasil.html

Informed Consent / Vaccine Risks Disclosure Form
http://www.vacfacts.info/informed-consent--vaccine-risks-disclosure-form.html

Response to - The AAP Revises Their Vaccine Refusal Form - 2013

My responding comments will be found in [....] To shorten this expose, only the main highlighted and pertinent excerpts from these documents, will be put forth here. Read the full documents at the linked to urls below.
http://www.vacfacts.info/response-to---the-aap-revises-their-vaccine-refusal-form---2013.html

A Basic Understanding of Naturopathic Health Care
http://www.vacfacts.info/a-basic-understanding-of-naturopathic-health-care.html

LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C
http://www.vacfacts.info/anti-viral---liposomal-encapsulated-vitamin-c.html

Chiropractic - Correcting Physiological Function and Strengthening Immunity
http://www.vacfacts.info/chiropractic---correcting-physiological-function-and-strengthening-immunity.html

The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

The Real History of Medicine
http://www.vacfacts.info/the-real-history-of-modern-medicine.html

Death By Medicine, (two well done studies show the truth; modern medicine and the whole system itself is now proven as a leading cause of death in the US).
http://www.vacfacts.info/death-by-medicine.html

A Basic Understanding of Naturopathic Health Care
http://www.vacfacts.info/a-basic-understanding-of-naturopathic-health-care.html

Natural Protocols Recovery From Cancer
http://www.vacfacts.info/natural-protocols-recovery-from-cancer.html
http://www.vacfacts.info/cannabishemp-oil---cancer-cure.html
http://www.vacfacts.info/cannabis-oil-the-cancer-cure---page-two.html

Children Worldwide Are Contracting The Very Diseases They Are Being Vaccinated Against
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2013/02/03/children-worldwide-are-contracting-the-very-diseases-they-are-being-vaccinated-against/

17 Examples of Admitted Vaccine Failure
http://vactruth.com/2013/02/23/17-examples-of-vaccine-failure/

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You see, the editor, as opposed to the in denial refusal to ever actually link to my counter blog pages; I have no problem linking to yours. What should that tell you, and the public that would be so unfortunate as to find and read your pathetic and highly nauseating and tabloid style trash filled blog?

As to the ongoing reply comments made on the your previous blog article, I would leave it and that article with this additional reply. That page and its reference title is again, Monday, May 20, 2013 The Benefits of Vaccinations: History Continues To Frustrate Antivaxxers. This reply was as well sent to, "the editors" blog; but of course again remains unpublished.

The evidence is clearly against you and the pro-vaccine side, the editor. The fact is that it is YOU that can not debate the facts, and YOU have proven that time after time, going back to 2010, as a fact. The fact that you can not face that is the reason for this blog in the first place, as a source of peson attack, and in what you believe is personal ruin. You are one very very sick and twisted person, (less than human as a fact) and quite obviously the only person unable to see that is you.

Do you think there is anyone anywhere looking for the facts and truth, that will waste their time with this SICK blog for any amount of time at all? I can tell you as a fact that none of the people actually over 500 people on my friends list on facebook, will consider this as anything but very sick attack on the truth, and anyone that puts it forth. How's that sit with you Coster, the editor; and yes I can call you Costner, as that is the character name you used to falsely attack me and make denial of all in the Argus.

Why were you the editor blogging using a false identity known as, Costner Matthews, in 2007, and before you ever knew of me? Claiming yourself to be employed in consulting apparently as a consultant, and of course of an unknown nor stated nature of it and as to what exactly that business is or was. Is that all not a bit more than a little strange? What does that say about you? What kind of a person is so hypocritical that with no identity of their own, they make attacks and endless acussations against anyone else at all, claiming sock puppet accounts, and personal accusations of, oh yes it was this person, anything that does not support you was the same person you are attacking in over 100 titled blog pages, and oh yes you again and again claim to that you have proven it; in the clear light of evidence that you have falsely accussed this, repeatedly. Your previous blog pages prove you have proven nothing; and that each and every time you were guessing. There are no sock puppet accounts, "Mr. Conspiracy Theorist" "the editor"! How sick is that, and YOU with absolutely zero identity of your own; and never having had any yourself in over 3 years now of this personal attack and the blogging attack on the vaccine truth, and anyone anywhere that puts it forth. And you can actually look in the mirror and be proud of yourself? That is an amazing level of evil, and major denial.

Your blog was created for one reason, revenge on the fact that you actualy can not debate me unless you make all sorts of excuses to deny the information, and to refuse to accept the information. You must swipe as much of it off the table without consideration as possible, and then you in your twisted mind claim yourslef as the winner. How twisted and delusional is that? You could not hold a debate with me with all the information on the table and come out being anything in the publics eyes but a sick LOSER, and you know that, as a fact. It has been proven again and again. Again, that is the reason for this blog, so YOU can control all of the information, and fabricate it into whatever you want it to be.

Next time you see a mirror, stand there and tell yourself how proud you are of your sick work, the editor; and while thousands of children continue to be vaccine damaged, and so call modern medicine continues theo produce the endless and needless suffering that it continues to do? Why, because as I said the exclusive foundation of profit and money produced a false foundation to health care, for the past 100 years, that can do nothing but producer more sickeness and disease. There is no real science there at pharma and never was, its all a false illusion. If you think they at pharma follow or always follow the, and that said scientific method; then it is you that does NOT understand the true scientific method, nor as it was intended to work. Think thats only some conspiracry theory; start digging into my website, and see what you can do with that. "Stay a classy guy", "the editor"!!!

Oh, and by the way, "the editor"; you clearly and repeatedly have published some of the most hate filled and mindless comments by people using only that, "Anonymous" status. How classy is that, garbage? Yet people who have used the Anonymous status to publish something of truth, you have refused to publish that reply, and/ or in the alternative, falsely accuse it as being me that sent the reply. Each and every time, you have done that. How many times would we see that to have happened on this blog? But then you know all to well that no one is going to bother to check the comments on the last 50 sick and in denial blog pages you wrote. Have a wonderful day. What a sick, in major denial, evil, and extremely twisted man; "the editor". You should go ahead and retitle your blog to, The Smoke and Mirrors, No Actual Science (nor scientific method to it) - Pro-Vaccine Journal; or perhaps retitle that blog to, The I Have No Science, While Falsely Promoting That I Have The Vaccine Safety and Effectiveness Science and Data, That I, The CDC, Gorski, and Paul Offit... Don't Have Either, (and will never have). (blogspot.com)? Or just pack it up and delete your sick blog, as that would serve the world much, and even better.