Sunday, October 31, 2010

Response To: Lowell's Trusted Expert: Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

Dated: Wednesday, October 20, 2010
The referenced to nameless faceless blogspot. Using my name for an url; which is false impersonation.

Lets get started.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Home Page - Quick reference. More will be below on the page.

Costner in the above blog page, made this statement right here.

Ok, so let's examine what Lowell considers to be "one of the best speakers out there" and see if she has the research to back up her claims.  I'm an open-minded guy, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on the issue.  If this Dr. Tenpenny has any legitimate science to support her theories or if she has some peer-reviewed studies published which support her claims, I'm more than willing to concede that there may be merit in some of the claims made by the anti-vaccination movement.

Well if this guy were honest he would be as to that statement - conceding right now. I am about to prove that as a fact.

He also made these bogus statements right here.

I think the answer is clear.  As with the vast majority of anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists, this Dr. Tenpenny is less concerned about vaccine safety or health, and more concerned about making a few bucks off of the scientifically and medically illiterate types who buy into her shell game.
I'm not about to dissect every single article written by Tenpenny, but the simple fact is they are merely articles and not science.  Not only does Tenpenny not reference any of her own peer-reviewed studies, in many cases she doesn't even cite any studies by anyone else, thus I have no idea why Mr. Hubbs would consider this to be scientific in nature.

So lets go back to Lowell's quote where he stated that Tenpenny is "one of the best speakers out there".  Tenpenny might be a riveting speaker, and she might even be popular among the anti-vaccination crowd, but how exactly does that give credence to what she says?  Does she have any science to back up her statements?  No.  Does she have any peer-reviewed studies published which can prove vaccines are harmful?  No.  Does she have case studies showing the differences between vaccinated and non-vaccinated children?  No.  Does she have double-blind clinical trials showing long-term effects of vaccinations upon the health of a child or adult?  No.

So what does she have exactly?  Well aside from some DVDs and supplements, I guess I don't really know.  Anyone can claim they are an expert as Tenpenny does, but the facts simply don't support that viewpoint.  As to anyone having to refute Tenpenny's claims, once again I feel the need to point out how the simple concept of proof works.  It is not my duty to refute anything Tenpenny has said as the burden of proof is upon her.  That means Tenpenny needs to provide real science in order to support her claims, yet it appears she is either unwilling or unable to do so, thus her claims are without merit.

I have noticed that Mr. Hubbs often relies upon the fallacy of argument from ignorance, as he often places the burden of such proof upon the refutation rather than on the proof of assertion.  Obviously if Mr. Hubbs cannot understand how legitimate debate actually works, it is doubtful we will ever make any headway, but at the very least it remains extremely easy to show examples of his ignorance.

However that isn't how real arguments work, and if Mr. Hubbs had more than a high school education he might know that.  The duty to prove a claim in this case rests upon the person making the claim as if a person makes an ontologically positive claim, there is a heavily weighted burden of proof placed upon that claim.

Thus, in this case the only acceptable level of supporting evidence comes in the form of science - and that is the fact that Mr. Hubbs and so many of his fellow anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists continually ignore.  Therefore until Tenpenny or Mr. Hubbs can actually provide some level of scientific evidence to support any of their theories, those theories will remain just what they are... unsupported opinion.  Perhaps one day Mr. Hubbs will learn what a valid argument really is, and perhaps one day he will understand complex concepts such as philosophic burden of proof, but until then he will remain nothing other than a anti-vaccination conspiracy theorist.

The Above From: A Heretic’s View of Influenza’s Role in Health and Disease
Article by Dr Sherri Tenpenny


Vitamin D

From the above claims it appears Costner feels there is no proof of the germ theory being wrong, and as well as modern medicine medicine being wrong in that regard. I am not about to reference all the endless information proving the germ theory to be the wrong way to approach health care; but you can easily see that to not be the case, if you take the time to review the real history of modern medicine and what was known from the beginning. Pasteur was not correct. Becamp was right; but do not expect that to be found in your medical text books it has all been removed, and any trace of that real history and its people involved with and at the time the origins of modern medicine were being created.

Most people today have never heard of the concepts of the soil and the seed. This was a major controversy in Pasteur's day. On Pasteur's death bed he is said to have conceded, it was the soil not the seed. If you have no knowledge of this, it is actually the basis of all real health care. However drugs and vaccines could not be sold for millions in profits were that to be acknowledged. The early Rockefellers knew this and capitalized on it, providing large sums of money to all medical schools beginning in the 30's with a strict protocol that only a drug or vaccine could cure or prevent disease. All else was to be considered quackery and selling snake oil. We can see where that false premise has lead us today! A largely failed system of health care with no real cures to anything but chemical attempts at managing the symptoms. "You can not heal with poison"!, Charolotte Gerson, Gerson Institute. Healing Cancer From the Inside Out - DVD.

History of Medicine

Now, what you have here are Costners claims, and they are clearly evidence of false claims to the following things. He states that he has reviewed Dr Tenpennys site, and found no evidence that there were any peer reviewed studies nor any science there to support her claims. Lie number one! For openners lets look at the following articles off that site. Look at the number of studies and peer reviewed studies that are referenced to on the sites and links to that information she Dr.Tenpenny) puts forth. Remember again, that he stated the following! 

I'm an open-minded guy, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on the issue.  If this Dr. Tenpenny has any legitimate science to support her theories or if she has some peer-reviewed studies published which support her claims, I'm more than willing to concede that there may be merit in some of the claims made by the anti-vaccination movement.
So now lets go to the review of a little of that actual information as to the books and DVD's that Dr. Tenpenny has published and put forth. How much science is there?

It states right here that in her book information below, that the book, Saying Know to Vaccines, contains;

350 + medical references documenting vaccine problems.

but he as well he conveniently ignored that. She also references many CDC documents. He lied!

Saying Know To Vaccines - book information.

Lets then go look at some of the science referenced to here and peer reviewed studies as to the lack of effectiveness of flu vaccines below, and in all age groups including pregnant women. Full referenced to trusted journals.

Home Page - Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

About Dr Tenpenny and her mission and interests at Osteomed.
The Osteomed Site - Dr Sherri Tenpenny

About Dr Tenpenny.


Mothering Magazine- Dr. Tenpenny

The Truth About the Flu Shot
By Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO

The Truth about Flu Shots in Pregnancy
By Dr Sherri Tenpenny
FOWL! Bird flu—What it’s really all about

Now we also have Costner admitting that he has never actually heard Dr. Tenpenny speak at any point ever! We also have Costner admitting he has never reviewed any books she has written nor any of the DVD's she has produced. So, therefore how does he know if there is any science and peer reviewed studies within that information? You can already see that in his claims that he lied about that as well, and as to what was on her site. You see he has never reviewed the work of Mary Tocco as well, and he makes the same false claims as to her research. Neither of these woman do anything but quote the science and the studies; you will realize that if you have any honest involvement in knowing what they put forth. You see this is Costners main game, and always was; lying and repeated denial of all that is there; and as to what he has been shown. 

Ok, so lets look at a few more of Costners statements in this said blog!!!

This quote seems to call into question the germ theory first discovered by Louis Pasteur which has been accepted and proven as scientific fact.  However most anti-vaccination types don't like the idea that germs can cause disease as they feel the body should be able to heal itself naturally or via spinal adjustments, and since they don't have any way to treat germs or bacteria, they instead simply reject the idea.  Granted they don't have any science to support these views, but what else is new.
Tenpenny may feel viruses aren't a big deal or that the flu is actually natures way of healing the body, but that doesn't really help the estimated 200,000 people a year who are hospitalized due to flu-related complications or the 3,000 to 49,000 people who die from the flu each year.  I'm sure it would be so comforting to these people if they knew their bodies were merely trying to heal themselves, and thus their death was actually a way for their bodies to get stronger.... wait - how does that help if they are dead exactly?

So back to the bigger issue here - who exactly is this Dr. Tenpenny?  Well according to the bio on her website Dr. Tenpenny is a graduate of the University of Toledo and she received her medical training at Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine.  Nothing so amazing here thus far and honestly I don't even have a problem with Osteopaths, so I'm not even trying to pick on her.  She goes on to say that she was board certified in Emergency Medicine through 2005 (which begs the question why she is no longer board certified) and has been board certified in Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine since 1995.

This is where it starts to get a little shaky, because "Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine" or OMM is where a doctor not only examines the physical aspects of a patient, but the emotional, mental, and even spiritual as well.  That in itself is all fine, but it seems Tenpenny has shifted focus and is drifting away from traditional medicine (which may explain why she is no longer board certified in Emergency Medicine).  One thing of note is how Tenpenny actually uses space on her CV to openly state that she acts as a consultant to many law firms on vaccine injury cases.  Classy, but I guess when you no longer practice real medicine you need to find other ways of building up the bank account, and what better way than acting as a hired gun to a big law firm who is seeking class action status for a few vaccine injury cases?

It seems that Costner conveniently ignored posting this section of the information. Nothing but a false and personal attack on all sources of alternative information and people. As always, with very little to no address; much more an honest address of the actual information itself. It seems that Costner the author of the said referenced to blog is an accomplished flat out lier! How would I know that; I have of course battled his lies elsewhere as well.

Background and Training
Dr. Tenpenny is a graduate of the University of Toledo in Toledo, Ohio.  She received her medical training at Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine in Kirksville, Missouri.  Dr. Tenpenny was board certified in Emergency Medicine through 2005 and has been board certified in Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine since 1995.

Prior to her career in alternative medicine, Dr. Tenpenny served as director of the Emergency Department at Blanchard Valley Regional Hospital Center in Findlay, Ohio, from 1987 to 1995. In 1994, she and a partner opened OsteoMed, a medical practice in Findlay limited to the specialty of osteopathic manipulative medicine.

In 1996, Dr. Tenpenny moved to Strongsville, Ohio, and founded OsteoMed II, expanding her practice and her vision of combining the best of conventional and alternative medicine. In 2004, OsteoMed move to Middleburg Heights, Ohio where the clinic currently resides. Osteomed is proud to report that patients from 38 states and 9 countries have come to the clinic to get well.

Read the remainder of the article page here, About Dr. Tenpenny

Full CVC,%20no%20dates.pdf

Quite obviously she has a very good background as to mainstream medical education, She clearly chose to become an Osteopath because of the ways in which would allow her to practice in a more holistic manner, and thus getting to the real causes of peoples medical problems. Obviously as well because of main stream medicine not having the track record it should have in those areas. But then why would Costner care about that when his mission is suppression of of all alternative means to health.

So being I can not, and do not have the means to put her said video and book information up on this blog; which he took advantage of that factor in his blog , as a means to claim no proof nor science exists in her information to back up her claims. Lets then look at some more of her information that IS publicly available.

Pandemic Flu Online. I understand Dr Tennpenny is also directly connected to this very good and informational site as well.

Vaccines: The Risks, The Benefits, The Choices 1/18

These are the first three of 18 segments to these videos. And Costner claims she has no science to back her claims against vaccines? Amazing. And this guy claims to have it all correct in whatever he claims to! Amazing. he wants you to remain a dumb sheeple like him. He doesn't want any parent going asking questions at their pediatrician or doctors office; because of what they read on either. He is an assassin of truth. If he only had given his identity here, we would likely and could clearly see and learn what is behind it all.

Index of the above:

NaturalNews Publishes Revealing Interview with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, Author of "Saying No to Vaccines"

Health Ranger Show #75: Interview with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on the Dangers of Vaccines.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, author of "Saying No to Vaccines" shares revolting details of what vaccines are made of, how they harm human health and why Big Pharma keeps pushing them on everybody. Interviewed by Mike Adams, editor of the Natural News website, the second largest natural health web site;, being the first.

The MMR Vaccine: To Do? Or NOT to Do? by Dr. Tenpenny

Say No to Vaccines: Dr. Sherri Tenpenny In-studio with Alex Jones

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: Flu Vaccines - What's Coming Through That Needle 1 thru 3


Another Source.
Video: Dr. Sherri Tenpenny – Flu Vaccines – What’s Coming Through That Needle

Dr. Tenpenny presents 1/7 - Swine Flu and Governments' Grab for Power. A seven part series.

VB Pertussis

Testimonial sherry tenpenny 1

Enhanced Interrogation: DR. SHERRI J. TENPENNY
Vaccine Awareness Activist

I don't know what you think, but I think Dr. Sherri Tenpenny has her shit together as to these issues, and that is no lie!!!

Regardless of how mislead the said replied to and referenced to blog tries to keep the public. The blog that used someone else's name than their own for the url; mine. What goes around comes around.

The website of the author of this blog.

Another great informational site.

How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders?

Monday, October 25, 2010

Response to: Lowell Hubbs Quote of the Day

Response to: Lowell Hubbs Quote of the Day
And Costner has had this information below right in front of him the whole time and intentionally ignored it?

Modern Medicine (so called), and Vaccine Truth

Here are Costners statements, and numbers from the CDC website.

“How credible is anything you are told by people in that medical field, when modern medicine is one of the leading causes of death in America. They have all been brainwashed, just like you. Any doctor that speaks out is sytematically [sic] destroyed; it is just a fact.” ~Lowell K. Hubbs

Well there you have it.  Of course don't bother asking Lowell to prove that modern medicine is one of the leading causes of death in America, because he will point you to his personal website as evidence.
However, for those of us interested in real facts supported by science, here is a complete listing of the most common causes of death in the US.

•         Heart disease: 616,067
•         Cancer: 562,875
•         Cancer: 562,875
•         Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 127,924
•         Accidents (unintentional injuries): 123,706
•         Alzheimer's disease: 74,632
•         Diabetes: 71,382
•         Influenza and Pneumonia: 52,717
•         Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 46,448
•         Septicemia: 34,828

Complete table with source documentation can be found here.

Then Costner goes on to make this statement right here.

So apparently if you die of a medical condition, Lowell believes that is the fault of modern medicine. That makes perfect sense.  Of course any doctor who dares speak out against the medical establishment is "sytematically [sic] destroyed", and those that don't speak out are simply "brainwashed".  I guess that is rather convenient, but in reality such a statement with no supporting evidence is what we call a conspiracy theory.

A conspiracy theory? Pay attention here Costner, apparently I have to rub your nose in this again! You are not even referencing to the correct study information. How can you do any form of evaluation of the situation, when you ignore the right data to evaluate the said claim with?

The study and the numbers come right from the AMA Journal. Of course since 2000, they have made that abstract and the study a dead link on their site; imagine that. What did they have and decided they needed to hide??? To much truth?

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Killing 225,000 People Every Year, Jul 30, 2000

Medical Errors - A Leading Cause of Death

The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.

However, we can clearly see what was in that study when we go here below to an interview with Dr Barbara Starfield.


On July 26, 2000, the US medical community received a titanic shock to the system, when one of its most respected and honored public-health experts, Dr. Barbara Starfield, revealed her findings on healthcare in America.

The landmark Starfield study, “Is US health really the best in the world?”, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, came to the following conclusions:

Every year in the US there are:

12,000 deaths from unnecessary surgeries; 
7,000 deaths from medication errors in hospitals; 
20,000 deaths from other errors in hospitals; 
80,000 deaths from infections acquired in hospitals; 
106,000 deaths from FDA-approved correctly prescribed medicines.
The total of medically-caused deaths in the US every year is 225,000.

Obviously, YOU can not even do nor comprehend the most basic math, Costner!!!

Now look at your numbers Costner? 225,000 fits right between,  Heart disease: 616,067 Cancer; 562,875 Chronic; and Lower respiratory diseases: 127,924; making that, (by the study figures), the third leading cause of death in the US! Now, this is 2012; do you think those numbers have become worse, or better? Nothing has changed, nor promoted any change, so obviously it could not ever actually get better. And the FDA is still the corrupt revolving door with the pharma industry, that silences any whistle blowers, and they all know that their jobs depend on not being in disagreement and rocking that boat.

This makes the medical system in that year 2000, the third leading cause of death in the US, behind heart disease and cancer. Face it.

Now, lets go to another study in the year 2004, showing so called modern medicine to be the first and leading cause of death in the US!  Take a look at the numbers.

Modern Health Care System is the Leading Cause of Death, Part I, Jul 7, 2004


One of the most prominent articles on this site is Doctors are the Third Leading Cause of Death . Well that article was written in 2000 and now it appears that, based on a variety of references noted in the below article, some from prior to 2000 some after, the conventional medical system in fact the LEADING cause of death in this country. Not heart disease, not cancer--doctors. In all fairness, doctors themselves are not to blame for all of this. The entire modern health care system, however, is responsible for allowing, even promoting, so many unnecessary procedures, drugs and mishaps. This illustrates precisely why the system is so desperately in need of change, and why facilitating this change is, and will continue to be, such a substantial portion of my vision .

By Gary Null PhD, Carolyn Dean MD ND, Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD, Dorothy Smith PhD

A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. 1 Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. 2, 2a

The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million. 3 The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million. 4 The total number of iatrogenic [induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures] deaths shown in the following table is 783,936.

It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251. 5

Check out the graph on the site page referenced:

Adverse Drug Reactions 106,000  
Medical error 98,000   
Bedsores 115,000  
Infection 88,000  
Malnutrition 108,800  
Outpatients 199,000  
Unnecessary Procedures 37,136  
Surgery-Related  32,000
TOTAL           783,936 (cost) $282 billion

Remember this number from above? Heart disease: 616,067 (it is simple math, alias no identity, Costner)!

We could have an even higher death rate by using Dr. Lucien Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate of 3 million. 14 Multiplied by the fatality rate of 14 percent (that Leape used in 1994 16 we arrive at an annual death rate of 420,000 for drug errors and medical errors combined. If we put this number in place of Lazorou's 106,000 drug errors and the Institute of Medicine's (IOM) 98,000 medical errors, we could add another 216,000 deaths making a total of 999,936 deaths annually.

Read more:

Modern Medicine (so called), and Vaccine Truth

More relevant excerpts from the previous, year 2000 era study:

The Starfield study is the most explosive revelation about modern healthcare in America ever published.  The credentials of its author and the journal in which it appeared are, within the highest medical circles, impeccable.    

Yet, on the heels of Starfield’s astonishing findings, although media reporting was extensive, it soon dwindled.  No major newspaper or television network mounted an ongoing “Medicalgate” investigation.  Neither the US Department of Justice nor federal health agencies undertook prolonged remedial action.

All in all, it seemed that those parties who could have taken effective steps to correct this mind-boggling situation preferred to ignore it.        

On December 6-7, 2009, I interviewed Dr. Starfield by email.

What has been the level and tenor of the response to your findings, since 2000? 

My papers on the benefits of primary care have been widely used, including in Congressional testimony and reports. However, the findings on the relatively poor health in the US have received almost no attention. The American public appears to have been hoodwinked into believing that more interventions lead to better health, and most people that I meet are completely unaware that the US does not have the ‘best health in the world’.

In the medical research community, have your medically-caused mortality statistics been debated, or have these figures been accepted, albeit with some degree of shame? 

The findings have been accepted by those who study them. There has been only one detractor, a former medical school dean, who has received a lot of attention for claiming that the US health system is the best there is and we need more of it.  He has a vested interest in medical schools and teaching hospitals (they are his constituency).  They, of course, would like an even greater share of the pie than they now have, for training more specialists.  (Of course, the problem is that we train specialists—at great public cost—who then do not practice up to their training—they spend half of their time doing work that should be done in primary care and don’t do it as well.)

Have health agencies of the federal government consulted with you on ways to mitigate the effects of the US medical system?


Since the FDA approves every medical drug given to the American people, and certifies it as safe and effective, how can that agency remain calm about the fact that these medicines are causing 106,000 deaths per year?

Even though there will always be adverse events that cannot be anticipated, the fact is that more and more unsafe drugs are being approved for use. Many people attribute that to the fact that the pharmaceutical industry is (for the past ten years or so) required to pay the FDA for reviews—which puts the FDA into a untenable position of working for the industry it is regulating. There is a large literature on this.

Aren’t your 2000 findings a severe indictment of the FDA and its standard practices?

They are an indictment of the US health care industry: insurance companies, specialty and disease-oriented medical academia, the pharmaceutical and device manufacturing industries, all of which contribute heavily to re-election campaigns of members of Congress. The problem is that we do not have a government that is free of influence of vested interests. Alas, [it] is a general problem of our society—which clearly unbalances democracy.

Can you offer an opinion about how the FDA can be so mortally wrong about so many drugs?

Yes, it cannot divest itself from vested interests. (Again, [there is] a large literature about this, mostly unrecognized by the people because the industry-supported media give it no attention.

Would it be correct to say that, when your JAMA study was published in 2000, it caused a momentary stir and was thereafter ignored by the medical community and by pharmaceutical companies?

Are you sure it was a momentary stir?  I still get at least one email a day asking for a reprint—ten years later!  The problem is that its message is obscured by those that do not want any change in the US health care system.

Do medical schools in the US, and intern/residency programs in hospitals, offer significant “primary care” physician training and education?

NO. Some of the most prestigious medical teaching institutions do not even have family physician training programs [or] family medicine departments. The federal support for teaching institutions greatly favors specialist residencies, because it is calculated on the basis of hospital beds. [Dr. Starfield has done extensive research showing that family doctors, who deliver primary care—as opposed to armies of specialists—produce better outcomes for patients.]

Are you aware of any systematic efforts, since your 2000 JAMA study was published, to remedy the main categories of medically caused deaths in the US?

No systematic efforts; however, there have been a lot of studies.  Most of them indicate higher rates [of death] than I calculated.

What was your personal reaction when you reached the conclusion that the US medical system was the third leading cause of death in the US?
I had previously done studies on international comparisons and knew that there were serious deficits in the US health care system, most notably in lack of universal coverage and a very poor primary care infrastructure. So I wasn’t surprised.

Has anyone from the FDA, since 2000, contacted you about the statistical findings in your JAMA paper?

NO. Please remember that the problem is not only that some drugs are dangerous but that many drugs are overused or inappropriately used.  The US public does not seem to recognize that inappropriate care is dangerous—more does not mean better.  The problem is NOT mainly with the FDA but with population expectations.

… Some drugs are downright dangerous; they may be prescribed according to regulations but they are dangerous.

Concerning the national health plan before Congress—if the bill is passed, and it is business as usual after that, and medical care continues to be delivered in the same fashion, isn’t it logical to assume that the 225,000 deaths per year will rise?

Probably—but the balance is not clear. Certainly, those who are not insured now and will get help with financing will probably be marginally better off overall.

Did your 2000 JAMA study sail through peer review, or was there some opposition to publishing it?

It was rejected by the first journal that I sent it to, on the grounds that ‘it would not be interesting to readers’!

Do the 106,000 deaths from medical drugs only involve drugs prescribed to patients in hospitals, or does this statistic also cover people prescribed drugs who are not in-patients in hospitals?

I tried to include everything in my estimates.  Since the commentary was written, many more dangerous drugs have been added to the marketplace.

106,000 people die as a result of CORRECTLY prescribed medicines.  I believe that was your point in your 2000 study.  Overuse of a drug or inappropriate use of a drug would not fall under the category of “correctly prescribed.”  Therefore, people who die after “overuse” or “inappropriate use” would be IN ADDITION TO the 106,000 and would fall into another or other categories.    

‘Appropriate’ means that it is not counter to regulations.  That does not mean that the drugs do not have adverse effects.

Some comments from the interviewer:

I’m aware there are reports, outside the mainstream, which conclude far more than 225,000 people in the US die every year as a result of medical treatment.  For example, see the work of Carolyn Dean, Trueman Tuck, Gary Null, Martin Feldman, Debora Rasio, Dorothy Smith.

This interview with Dr. Starfield reveals that, even when an author has unassailable credentials within the medical-research establishment, the findings can result in no changes made to the system.

Yes, many persons and organizations within the medical system contribute to the annual death totals of patients, and media silence and public ignorance are certainly major factors, but the FDA is the assigned gatekeeper, when it comes to the safety of medical drugs.  The buck stops there.  If those drugs the FDA is certifying as safe are killing, like clockwork, 106,000 people a year, the Agency must be held accountable.  The American people must understand that.

As for the other 119,000 people killed every year as a result of hospital treatment, this horror has to be laid at the doors of those institutions.  Further, to the degree that hospitals are regulated and financed by state and federal governments, the relevant health agencies assume culpability.

It is astounding, as well, that the US Department of Justice has failed to weigh in on Starfield’s findings.  If 225,000 medically caused deaths per year is not a crime by the Dept. of Justice’s standards, then what is?

To my knowledge, not one person in America has been fired from a job or even censured as result of these medically caused deaths.

Dr. Starfield’s findings have been available for nine years.  She has changed the perception of the medical landscape forever.  In a half-sane nation, she would be accorded a degree of recognition that would, by comparison, make the considerable list of her awards pale.  And significant and swift action would have been taken to punish the perpetrators of these crimes and reform the system from its foundations.

In these times, medical schools continue turning out a preponderance of specialists who then devote themselves to promoting the complexities of human illness and massive drug treatment.  Whatever the shortcomings of family doctors, their tradition speaks to less treatment, more common sense, and a proper reliance on the immune systems of patients.

The pharmaceutical giants stand back and carve up the populace into “promising markets.”  They seek new disease labels and new profits from more and more toxic drugs.  They do whatever they can—legally or illegally—to influence doctors in their prescribing habits.  Some drug studies which show negative results are buried.  FDA panels are filled with doctors who have drug-company ties.  Legislators are incessantly lobbied and supported with pharma campaign monies.

Nutrition, the cornerstone of good health, is ignored or devalued by most physicians.  Meanwhile, the FDA continues to attack nutritional supplements, even though the overall safety record of these nutrients is good, whereas, once again, the medical drugs the FDA certifies as safe are killing 106,000 Americans per year.

Physicians are trained to pay exclusive homage to peer-reviewed published drug studies.  These doctors unfailingly ignore the fact that, if medical drugs are killing a million Americans per decade, the studies on which those drugs are based must be fraudulent or, at the very least, massively incompetent.  In other words, the whole literature is suspect, unreliable, and impenetrable.

At the same time, without evidence, doctors off-handedly tout their work with great confidence.  Some years ago, a resident at a major New York hospital harangued me about the primacy of controlled studies.  She boasted, in passing, that the hospital’s heart-bypass surgery team was considered the best in the city, and one of the best in the country.  I asked her for a reference.  Was her statement a combination of folk-wisdom and rumor, or was there a proper study that confirmed her opinion?  A bit chagrined, she admitted it was hearsay.  I was sure she would repeat her tune, however, many times.

Claiming evidence where there is none, and denying the evidence that the medical system does great harm, are apparently part of the weave of the modern Hippocratic Oath.


Milbank Q. 1998;76(4):517-63, 509.
How good is the quality of health care in the United States?
Schuster MA, McGlynn EA, Brook RH.

RAND, Santa Monica, CA, USA. 

Studies over the past decade show that some people are receiving more care than they need, and some are receiving less. Simple averages from a number of studies indicate that 50 percent of people received recommended preventive care; 70 percent, recommended acute care; 30 percent, contraindicated acute care; 60 percent, recommended chronic care; and 20 percent, contraindicated chronic care. These studies strongly suggest that the care delivered in the United States often does not meet professional standards. Efforts to measure quality and report routinely on the results to the public at large would allow more definitive assessments of the status of the nation's health care and would enable us to single out the areas in need of improvement.
PMID: 9879302 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
The Questionable Contribution of Medical Measures to the Decline in Mortality. This study has never been refuted. Check out where it was done.

Shattering the false philosophy and junk science of conventional medicine.
These articles below as well show that the real numbers are likely to be MUCH higher than being the third leading cause!
So apparently if you die of a medical condition, Lowell believes that is the fault of modern medicine. That makes perfect sense.  Of course any doctor who dares speak out against the medical establishment is "systematically [sic] destroyed", and those that don't speak out are simply "brainwashed".  I guess that is rather convenient, but in reality such a statement with no supporting evidence is what we call a conspiracy theory.

SOMETHING is way wrong with you Costner! Is your comprehension of reality and the actual reference materials, that bad?


Lets go now to another claim you made on your said blog page!!!!

Here is a quotation of the rest of Costners claims on this particular blog page he created and titled, Lowell Hubbs Quote of the Day.

So apparently if you die of a medical condition, Lowell believes that is the fault of modern medicine. That makes perfect sense.  Of course any doctor who dares speak out against the medical establishment is "sytematically [sic] destroyed", and those that don't speak out are simply "brainwashed".  I guess that is rather convenient, but in reality such a statement with no supporting evidence is what we call a conspiracy theory.

The reality of the situation is that countless doctors do speak out against medical techniques, drug interactions, process errors and numerous other medical issues each and every day.  This is what helps to keep medicine evolving and what helps to develop newer and better treatments. 

Case in point, when doctors and researchers started realizing that there were problems with Vioxx, did they get ostracized from the medical community for speaking out?  No they didn't, and in fact it led to an FDA investigation, the drug being pulled from the market, and eventually billions of dollars (yes that is billions with a "b") worth of fines and settlements being paid by Merck.

Yet throughout all of the process, not a single doctor or researcher lost his or her job or was in any way harmed by voicing their opinion that was a direct assault against one of the largest pharmaceutical companies on the planet.

I guess not everyone in the medical community is as brainwashed as Mr. Hubbs would have us believe.

Well Costner, again it is you that has been brainwashed, and again it is you that does not have your facts straight. In fact your claims made are entirely false in the above referenced section.

In fact Costner, the FDA had nothing to do with the pulling of Vioxx from the market. I will show you the proof as this page progresses. It took major lawsuits, a second failed clinical trial, and the FDA clearly did not do their job in this matter.

The Facts and The Time Line as to Vioxx; from a large legal firm. 

What Merck Knew About Vioxx Side Effects, (be sure to read number 43, as well, as to your claims that no doctor nor scientist was attacked nor lost their job).

The FDA Exposed: An Interview With Dr. David Graham, the Vioxx Whistleblower
Clearly attacked, for the truth as well.

# 20. In September 2001, the American Heart Association, the National Stroke Association and the Arthritis Foundation asked Merck to test whether Vioxx increased the risk of heart attack and stroke. (There was a second clinical trial).

This process that you claim exists right here; in your below quoted and italicized paragraph; I would challenge you to provide some proof for that, and in any major way?

The reality of the situation is that countless doctors do speak out against medical techniques, drug interactions, process errors and numerous other medical issues each and every day.  This is what helps to keep medicine evolving and what helps to develop newer and better treatments.

Indeed as well, when we are talking about alternative cancer cures, with a natural basis to it, or natural healing of any condition and within the self healing body that does exist, given the right means; we are talking about entirely differant issues than what you have referenced to in these (your) said blog claim statements. Natural means to heal is an entirely differant subject than is drug interactions and the issues you referenced to in the above italicized paragraph. Even those statements are clearly baseless and you have nothing to base that on. Do you work as a doctor, or around doctors that would make it even possible for you to make these said claims; I doubt it! If those claims were fact, and if that system were so effective at producing the outcomes you claim it has as well Vioxx would never have become the large issue of damage and death that it did!

Your referenced and italicized statement below:

Case in point, when doctors and researchers started realizing that there were problems with Vioxx, did they get ostracized from the medical community for speaking out?  No they didn't, and in fact it led to an FDA investigation, the drug being pulled from the market, and eventually billions of dollars (yes that is billions with a "b") worth of fines and settlements being paid by Merck.

This is what helps to keep medicine evolving and what helps to develop newer and better treatments.

In your above statements you obviously conclude that the FDA was responsible in some way for the removal of Vioxx from the market. The FDA did not in fact remove that drug from the market, and they clearly should have long before Merck did it themselves! Obviously these major drug companies have to be forced to do what should be done, under the weight of what would be the twin towers, or nothing gets done; when there is that much money to be made. And you are going to still make the claim that modern medicine has all the real science, done under the (that) scientific method? That is some amazing selective ignornace you have going on! 

What happens when any doctor speaks out about vaccines, or if they were to speak out about the ineffective means to cure cancer based on proven natural therapies and protocols. You are going to claim that doctor would never be attacked nor silenced? It would be and has been career suicide, and you know it. Wakefield was one good example, amoung many.

Now moving on to the issue of your claim that the doctor report systems in place and the FDA were responsible for the removal of Vioxx from the market. Again refer to the above timeline; that certainly does not appear to be the case.

Did you know that Merck then also turned around and produced the dangerous and fast tracked vaccine Gardasil as well? Some system of protection they have.

The Tragic Truth behind the Gardasil Nightmare

Placebo fraud rocks the very foundation of modern medical science; thousands of clinical trials invalidated.  [And even Mercks Gardasil never used a true placebo in their clinical trials, they used an aluminum, and a carrier solution placebo].

Educate yourself to the FACTS! I thought you stated Costner, that there was never any doctor that lost their job for speaking out about Vioxx. What a delusional world you live in Costner. You were wrong - here as well!

Silencing public health advocates: Outspoken Vioxx critic loses job after testimony against Merck in federal trial.

Merck litigation strategy - destroy expert witnesses.

Merck employees had "hit list" of doctors they sought to "neutralize", court documents reveal.

Merck caught in scandal to bury Vioxx heart attack risks, intimidate scientists and keep pushing dangerous drugs; Vioxx lawsuits now forming

Vioxx Reapproved by FDA Panel Members With Ties to Drug Companies

Now we can see how bad it actually has to get before a major drug on the market is actually pulled from the market. What about vaccines?

Top 10 vaccine stories of the year (so far).

And as said, the FDA still did not pull the drug Vioxx. Merck company was forced to due to do that, due the lawsuits and due to the failure of second necessary clinical trial on the drug Vioxx, etc. Again read the timeline of events above!
If the FDA is doing its job, then how does all this linked to below... happen? And even when they found out the truth, the FDA still did NOT pull Vioxx from the market. The FDA is clearly in bed with the pharmaceutical industry; they do not actually protect the public, they protect large profitable pharmaceutical corporations. It is often a revolving door of employment; to even include ties to the CDC.

Former head of CDC lands lucrative job as president of Merck vaccine division.

$30 Billion Vioxx Recall -- The Dangers, Powerful Lessons & Safe Alternatives that Eve.

Leaked documents show Merck knew of Vioxx dangers, yet hid them for years.

Merck Caught in Massive Scientific Fraud as In-House Authors were Disguised as Independent Scientists (opinion).

Merck Sat on Data Showing Vioxx Risks for Years Before Pulling Drug

Merck's Vioxx scandal widens: Drug maker knew Vioxx was deadly for years before risk was made public

The FDA obviously can provide the services needed, unless it had unbiased oversight that can not be intimidated, or removed for making solid and publicized disagreement.

Liver-Damaging Effects of Cholesterol Drug Zetia Hidden by Merck, FDA Documents Reveal.


And yet again they were allowed to make Gardasil, and that nightmare the FDA will not and still refuses to come to terms with as well.

Merck is not the only pharmaceutical company to be fined for its corruption!

More Vaccine Insanity.
Hepatitis B Vaccine: Good for 'Newborn' Prostitutes and Drug Users, but Who Else?

MICHAEL BELKIN'S WRITTEN TESTIMONY TO CONGRESS, (on the insanity of injecting hepatitis B vaccine in an hours old infant).   (PART 1)       
Tuesday May 18, 1999

Hepatitis B Vaccine

Mindless Vaccination Bureaucracy
By Michael Belkin

VAERS ANALYSIS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)


The total 24,775 VAERS hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998 show 439 deaths and 9673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits, hospitalization, disablement or death. Therefore, more than one third of total reports were serious events. 17,497 of those total reports were for hepatitis B vaccine only, the remainder were vaccine cocktails where hepatitis B was administered along with DPT, HIB, IPV, OPV, etc.

The hepatitis-B-vaccine-only reports show a shocking cluster of reactions in females starting in their teenage years (the male/female reporting ratio is balanced before age 16).

Read the entire article here.

15,000 French citizens filed a lawsuit against the French government for understating the risks and overstating the benefits associated with the hepatitis B vaccine. Hundreds of people were reported to have suffered from auto immune and neurological disorders, including multiple sclerosis, following hepatitis B vaccination. As a result, in October 1998, the French Minister of Health ended the mandatory hepatitis B vaccination program for all school children.

Guess who also makes a hepatitis b vaccine?


Oh the FDA and the CDC are the best, they have ALL the science... Costner! Don't be looking at any of those what you claim are nut job conspiracy theory sites!!!! The information you claim are UFO and tin foil hat conspiracy theory sites. If you admit the truth you might have to stop supporting your mission of lies, personal attacks on all people and alternative sources of information; (simply as well claiming they sell something) and as well your promotion of the mainstream - - misinformation!

What a mislead stooge. What are you falsely protecting Costner, and why? With what you have been shown endlessly you should know by now that if you are honest, I can shove you right back down the hole you always came out of; and with with the real facts.

F.D.A. Reviews Arthritis Drugs for Links to Cancer


Since the drugs block part of the immune system, it has always been known that they might contribute to higher risk of cancers and also infections. The labels for the drugs all contain warnings to that effect -- particularly about the risk of lymphomas, which are cancers of immune system cells.

[My note: The Immune System is what keeps all cancers in check, something the mainstream circles refuse to acknowlege. The human body makes cancer cells every day. Gee I wonder why anyone would want to investigate proven natural protocols that get to the actual cause instead of just manage the symptoms?

The pharmacuetical world of drugs is just riddled with endless unknown situations such as these, as to adverse effect of their drugs.]

Bechamp or Pasteur: A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology (Paperback)

Bechamp's science and the microzymas.

Professor Antoine Bechamp (1816-1908)




Gee Costner, maybe you should have gone to after all??? All of it as far as modern medicine and vaccines is pretty much irrefutable and it contains as well the real historical record that has been deleted from the text books. Pretty hard to believe isn't it! Those are the facts, like it or not.

Antoine Bechamp, Pleomorphism, Disease Theory.

The Lost History of Medicine.

The Drug Story: By Hans Ruesch

Modern (so called) Medicine, and Vaccine Truth