Thursday, May 23, 2013

Reply to: The Benefits of Vaccinations: History Continues To Frustrate Antivaxxers

Monday, May 20, 2013
The Benefits of Vaccinations: History Continues To Frustrate Antivaxxers

(A link to this page and title was sent to, the editor, but likely will never be published, and this is to lengthy to send by limited space multiple, individual replies.)

First of all, none of the studies as to the extensive, long list of them I have on my site pages have ever come from any other websites, but were simply searched for on my own.

If you can not even be truthful enough about the in your errant claiming that mice were injecting with various substances mice every five days and may be the equivalent of injecting 5ml of the exact same antigen into a human every week for several decades; when actually no such thing was stated whatsoever nor detailed as having ever been that extensive and in that regard, then your analysis is near to worthless. Then you go on to claim that the researchers are actually focused more upon environmental antigens impact those who aren't vaccinated rather than those who are; which also is a flat out lie, and no such thing was stated. You just read what you want to, and forget the rest of the study, while attempting to twist and fabricate your own biased and predetermined interpretations.

As well you were only given that duplicate pubmed study to show that those kind of studies are as said, nearly always also found published in Pubmed.

Just like I said, that was only a small tip of the iceburg, and you need to combine all of available studies together to get the bigger picture. Are you that blind to reality that you can not see that just the content of the numerous studies alone in what is listed on that extensive list you linked to from The Greater Good movie, is enough in itself, for most thinking people to realize that vaccines clearly do more harm than good. But of course you need to in your mind minimize that and not realize just how large the number is, as to the numbers of infants and children that have been adversely affected by vaccines, and to additionally include the now one 1 in 50 stated by the CDC to be affected by ASD.     

You claim in your mind victory, when you are not even looking at and still refusing to face the real picture that is going on, nor the actual evidence of it. I could as well not even begin to count the endless parent accounts I have read of and personally heard presented to me regarding a healthy child becoming severely ill after the MMR vaccine, and/or a load of other vaccines, and then comes the steady regression into the lost world of ASD. Children are sicker than they have ever been in history, with more illness, disorders, learning disability, and as well cancer. Directly correlating with the increase in since 1987 no liability vaccines. 

In false discreditation you claim everything to not be a study. But yet you yourself provided not one single vaccine safety study, and still nor yet have you ever provided one single aluminum adjuvant safety study; as I have asked you for; how is that any victory?    

The most obvious error you have made as well is in all your erroneous claims as to the numbers of lives saved by vaccines, which is utterly preposterous for two reasons. The first one is that there is absolutely no actual data that proves any such thing, as they are simply all extrapolated guesses made based on the false assumption that if so called diseases reduced in number or disappeared, that it had be because of the vaccines. How do you prove that when most of those illness were already in a major decline far before a vaccine was developed? Second reason is in the fact that the real historical record that has not been altered by the CDC or the WHO, shows an entirely different outcome than vaccine success. In fact it shows diseases such as small pox having majorly increased after the development and use of the vaccine; same thing for polio, and increased cases of polio, and in regard to the severity of polio to include increased cases of paralysis. Why do you think the iron lung was needed to the extent that it was, after the introduction of polio vaccine, and not before. Polio was not an issue until previous to that, vaccine use was initiated in the US. The whole vaccines save millions of lives claim, is nothing but a very large scam. If the polio vaccine worked, then why was it necessary for them to significantly change the diagnoses criteria, so then anything that resembled polio ended up being diagnosed as meningitis? Of course if you have been vaccinated in that time era, and a doctor knew that, just like today the mentality would never allow for a diagnoses of polio. Just like vaccines today will never be determined as the cause of severe illness nor disability, unrecovered from outcomes, nor even ASD, from a vaccine reaction, and all is denied through their pharma brainwashed training, as not being possible. They will such as in the case of Gardasil for example, literally bankrupt the family attempting to test for and diagnose any other condition other than that of simply a vaccine or vaccines, being the causation. Absolutely no legal liability now for anyone, nor pharma, since 1987, and the continued denial of all, and no matter what happens. 

I want you to take a look at this article Editor, and see if you can explain that basic information away, in regard to that more harm than good question. Can you deny that?

Is This The Best We Can Offer?

You know how many additional studies tying it all in that there are on my site, or you should know by now. And how about the page titled, Aluminum Adjuvants - Lack of Safety Data - Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies, have you read the data on that one. You are claiming your hollow victory when you have barely scratched the surface of information, and in all reality. You do so because you chose to do anything possible to stay in the dark and to keep the public in the dark, as to the information reality of vaccines. And yes, they have always done more harm than good, and they are currently doing more harm than ever before. You will forever refuse to face that reality. So be it, but you do not have the right to repeatedly attempt to deny and hide that reality from the public!

So, in reference as well to the studies information on the syndrome of and described as ASIA.  It doesn’t at all concern you that multiple studies could and would have been added to that if you had allowed it, that have been done which show a repeat finding in ASD, that the child has chronic levels of brain inflammation. The studies as well show the direct connection regarding that inflammation,  to repeat injection of aluminum adjuvants, and as well the obvious link to ASD. Its not just one vaccine nor ingredient. It is the MMR vaccine as a clear causational factor in ASD, and as well the synergistic effect vaccine contamination combined with aluminum adjuvants. There is also antigen molecular mimicry involved in demyelination. The outcomes in relation to biomedical treatment, as well show all this to be true, in and as to the not one size fits all as to protocols that need to be used. Heavy metal detoxification, dietary changes that heal the gut, combined with the right supplements; antiviral detox. One child may need only one protocol but not the other, to recover; and some may need a combination of protocols. They do recover and the improvements are something the medical side has never done, nor had any hope of doing. What right does the mainstream medical side have to deny these major improvements, just because it implicates vaccines? Why do they insist on staying in denial, and thus deny these children the help they need, and for it to be paid by insurance, and not out of the parents pocket? The obvious reason is because they have to much to lose if any such thing were ever admitted to; and the like you, they must continue to deny it all.    

You yet as well sing the praises of polio vaccine in underdeveloped countries, when the real facts show that the gates effort has produced over 50,000 cases of AFP, acute flaccid paralysis, and there is not any other viable explanation for it than the oral vaccine, and nor that they can put to it. And why are those so called enteroviruses they blame only found in the countries with that oral vaccine in use, and as well additional cases of AFP. That is not a success story, nor as to the numbers. Your so called victory editor was ONLY a calculated and cheap way out, again entirely ignoring the weight of the evidence. No one could nor should honestly put out a calling it all out card, and say you addressed all the science and the evidence, when you still continue to censor and disregard all but a small part of the total evidence and that complete picture; to include the science. It is again, simply delusional.

Current Status of Aluminum Adjuvant Research

Vaccines’ Alum Adjuvant Path to Brain Found: Study
Newly published research by Keele Conference scientists shows that aluminum adjuvant in vaccines transfers to the brain. They have documented the path from injection site to the brain, and that once in the brain, it persists. Newborns, the elderly, and people with a certain genetic variation are particularly at risk.

Slow CCL2-dependent translocation of biopersistent particles from muscle to brain

Autism Studies and Related Medical Conditions,  (master list that is approaching 600 citations).

"No Evidence of Any Link" (33 Citations) Ginger Taylor

Educate for the Vaccine injured -  PDF/Full text studies


Gardasil Studies

Flu Shot-Studies

Vaccine Research -Relevant Database Sections

Alex Jones w/ Shawn Siegel & Marcella Piper-Terry "The Vaccine Myth: (An expose on the reality of the polio vaccine and the changing of the diagnosis, effectively making polio disappear literally like smoke and mirrors).


The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences

Manipulation of polio statistics

The real story of the covered up failure of the small pox vaccine.
History Repeats Itself: Lessons Vaccinators Refuse to Learn, by Jennifer Craig, PhD

Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness


Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics

Decline of Dieases Prior to Available Vaccine Graphs

Real history: Vaccines not responsible for halting infectious diseases of 20th century

United States Disease Death Rates, (in relation to vaccines, and is the source for the above data)

The entire vaccine industry is being exposed for unproven assumptions and misrepresentations of data

Aluminum Adjuvants - Lack of Safety Data - Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies

The Vaccine Damage Science     

Actually is you, "the editor", who blew it; because your self limited and claimed but faked look at all the evidence and the scientific evidence, was nothing but a cheap and self bought get out of town ticket, that unknown to you, left you in the same town and still unable to find a way out. Simply swiping the evidence off the debate table, right and left, is not a debate. Ignoring the bulk of the the evidence, is not a real debate. No matter how much you twist it and attempt to find ways to ignore and deny it; the vaccine and pharma truth and all its reality can never actually be escaped, through your denial, "the editor"! There is simply and by far, to much evidence.


Here are three more replies that were sent to this said page, and this so called, "the editor".

First reply.

Chris, I think that if "the editor" here, actually published everything that was sent to him, you would end up with an entirely different and correct picture of reality, regarding vaccine safety and effectiveness. Please as well find me some studies on the safety of aluminum vaccine adjuvants. Also be sure to look for some studies on the safety of multiple repeat vaccines; I would sure like to see some of those, and in your confidence, surely you must have some of those???

J Epidemiol Community Health. 1979 June; 33(2): 150–156.
Toxicity of pertussis vaccine: frequency and probability of reactions
G. T. Stewart


From a file of 1127 children in whom signs of brain damage were reported after injections of vaccines containing pertussis antigen, the first 197 cases with good documentation of events were chosen for further study. In these children, 291 reactions had been reported, usually of screaming attacks (68), convulsions (87), collapse (17), or one or more of these signs (99), within 24 hours of injection. Subsequently 165 children became mentally defective and 102 had further convulsions. In 129 (65%), contraindications to vaccination were present ab initio and in 25, subsequent injections were given despite reactions to a previous injection or injections.

From a mathematical model constructed from data in published reports, it is calculated that the frequency of convulsions appears to be higher by 2: 1 in vaccinated than in unvaccinated infants. In children subject to febrile or other convulsions, the frequencies may be of the same order but a second convulsion occurring only after a second or subsequent injection of vaccine is unlikely to be due to chance.

The pattern of reactions and sequence of events observed in the present study and in published reports suggest an association between certain reactions to pertussis vaccine and subsequent severe brain damage, the incidence of which appears to be not less than one per fifty thousand children vaccinated during the last 20 years of mass vaccination in the United Kingdom.

Oh, I think that in reality that 1 in 50,000 is actually a very incorrect estimate; and if they actually studied it further that would find the number to be much more common than that. The older standard DPT was neurologically damaging, causing seizure disorders, and killing infants and children on a regular basis and thus was the largest reason they enacted the law and started the federal vaccine court. Although the DTaP vaccine, etc is of course less reactive being a non live vaccine, does NOT mean it is not doing the same thing on a lessor scale. By any means that number is obviously far more than just 1 in 50,000.

Public Health. 2012 Jun
Pertussis resurgence among vaccinated children in Khairpur, Sindh, Pakistan.
Mughal A, Kazi YF, Bukhari HA, Ali M.

Can Med Assoc J. 1937 August; 37(2): 134–136.
PMCID: PMC1562195
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) Treatment of Whooping Cough
1. A method has been described for the treatment
of whooping cough by ascorbic acid
(vitamin C).
2. Ascorbic acid definitely shortens the paroxysmal stage of the disease, particularly if relatively large doses are used early in the disease.
(And they knew this in 1937, and in 2013 what has the CDC done to promote use of vitamin C, nothing.)

Vitamin C As An Antiviral: It's All About Dose

Vitamin C for Whooping Cough. Updated Edition. Suzanne Humphries, MD

Why is nobody studying vitamin C in whooping cough? – Conventional medicine’s hypocrisy. by Suzanne Humphries, MD

LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C, (found just as effective as IV vitamin C)

Recent Evidence Shows Vaccinated Kids Account For 90 Percent of Cases of Whooping Cough

Vaccinated kids account for 90 percent of child whooping cough cases in Vermont

Study: Whooping cough outbreak linked to vaccinated children

Whooping Cough Epidemic Caused by Virulent New Pertussis Strain—And It’s the Result of Vaccine
Researchers find first US evidence of vaccine-resistant pertussis

May 23, 2013 
Pertussis Vaccine Failure is not Just Modern but Historical: Pertussis Vaccine has Never Been Effective

17 Examples of Admitted Vaccine Failure

Is This The Best We Can Offer? (Very informative expose on the current vaccine situation)


The next and second reply.

Here's another one for you Chris! That pertussis treatment with vitamin C is looking better all the time, might as well forget the vaccine! Unless you don't care about facts? And this article by the way is using data graphs right from the Australian gov't, and here is a copy of it on the page.

Reported Pertussis cases in Australia.  5296 (75%) were fully vaccinated for their age.


For the years 2008-2010, there were a total of 9333 cases of whooping cough reported in children aged 0-4 years. Among them were 754 who were either too young or otherwise not eligible to have been vaccinated, and 1497 for whom vaccine status was not known.

Of the remaining 7082 cases whose vaccine status was known, and who were eligible to have received the vaccine, 5296 (75%) were fully vaccinated for their age. A further 986 (14%) were partly vaccinated. Only 800 (11%) were un-vaccinated.


The third and final reply.

Your measles information is as well entirely incorrect, "the editor".

Cases of Autism Dwarf Risk from Measles

Measles scare in the Associated Press due to upcoming jurisdictional appeal?

The Associated Press in the United States has picked up on a media story from the United Kingdom that blames Dr. Andrew Wakefield's 1998 Lancet paper on a current measles outbreak (See source article dated May 20). Dr. Wakefield also happens to be suing UK Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer and British Medical Journal's Fiona Godlee for defamation. A jurisdictional appeal will be heard in a Texas court tomorrow, May 22.

Welsh Measles Epidemic Was Faked

2013 MEASLES NEWS: The UK’s Fake Welsh Measles Epidemic – Only 8 Cases Confirmed For March – 302 Wrongly Diagnosed and “Notified” By Docs

The Vaccine Hoax is Over

Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have

1. Known the vaccines don’t work
2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent
3. Known they are a hazard to children
4. Colluded to lie to the public
5. Worked to prevent safety studies

Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US.

You can access Dr. Tomljenovic's full paper here:

MMR-Danish Study - a critical analysis ---Ulf Brånell

Vaccines and Autism - What Do Epidemiological Studies Really Tell Us?

There are 16 epidemiological studies here on MMR vaccines, thimerosal and autism. These studies represent the most often cited papers by scientists, public health officials and members of the media when trying to refute any evidence of an association between vaccinations and autism.

There are serious methodological limitations, design flaws, conflicts of interest or other problems related to each of these 16 studies. These flaws have been pointed out by government officials, other researchers, medical review panels and even the authors of the studies themselves. Taken together, the limitations of these studies make it impossible to conclude that thimerosal and MMR vaccines are not associated with autism.

The Great Measles Misunderstanding

Measles outbreaks signal increasing incidence comparable with the pre-vaccine era

Outbreaks of measles in vaccinated children have continued and have intensified to this day. Dr. Viera Scheibner, Principal Research Scientist (Retired) who has a doctorate in Natural Sciences from Comenius University in Bratislava, has observed that, "the ineffectiveness of vaccination," may indicate, "that the incidence of measles has increased and has not continued decreasing as it did for some 100 years before any type of measles vaccination was introduced."

In an article dated January 18 and written by Dr. Scheibner entitled, "The ineffectiveness and unintended consequences of measles vaccination," she gives some examples of these outbreaks in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations all over the world:

Read more:

Measles Vaccines Part I; Ineffectiveness of Vaccination and Unintended Consequences. ~ by Dr Viera Scheibner (PhD)

Measles Vaccines Part II; Benefits of Contracting Measles ~ by Dr Viera Scheibner (PhD)


                                  Vaccines, the science. In memory of Ryan

Alex Jones w/ Shawn Siegel & Marcella Piper-Terry "The Vaccine Myth: (An expose on the reality of the polio vaccine and the changing of the diagnosis, effectively making polio disappear literally like smoke and mirrors. Very well done!

                      Bill Gates Confronted On His Eugenics Vaccine Program


                                            Gardasil-The Real Truth                          


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