And you say he is a Certified 100% Fraud; well I couldn't think up a better description of what your blog contains, than 100% false propaganda, lying deception, and fraud. Nothing is ever enough.
I have sat through Dr. Andrew Moulden's seminar, as well as examined all of his information, and if you actually believe 5000 images of vaccine damaged children and adults were done, by taking photographs while they were purposefully crossing their eyes or making a funny face; you are as lying and delusional as it gets! You viewed that site when it was up, and I refered you to it multiple times, and now that it is no longer there, it is a perfect opportunity to lie about it. So, you are mocking the vaccine damage and the ruined lives of all those infants, children, teens, and adults; to include the Gardasil damaged girls! What do you think injecting all that aluminum into the body does when it gets into the blood stream? Over 600 mcg., in the three Gardasil shots. Why do you think water treatment plants use aluminum to get contaminants to settle to the bottom? It causes blood sludging in humans, and thus ischemia and hyoxia. Do some research on that! That would easily be seen with darkfield blood microscopy; but what did the FDA do; they banned it from human use in diagnosis and evaluation of any and all conditions.
And what was he selling? An alkaline water formulation to prevent and correct the blood sludging. And what did pharma have...nothing! They didn't even know the problems was there, and they caused it!
It is quite simple actually, and you should know it. Due to what is in the ingredients in vaccines, it can cause the blood to thicken and sludge; thus the fine end blood vessels in the brain can become starved of oxygen, causing what is known as small ischemic strokes. These are not unlike strokes in elderly adults. they take on the same form, onlu most often to a far lessor degree. You see the eyes affected, by not being straight, one or the other eye being turn slightly or even majorly turned in or out. When the eyes turn, there may be one that rotates in a semi circlular motion, and one does not. This is all cause by the lack of oxygen and blood flow causing lesions on one or more of the cranial nerves. This affects the bilateral fold in one side of the face, and the corner of mouth being uneven, just as it does in major stoke victims that are elderly.
Some may ask, why wouldnt it be seen on an MRI, it was seen, they just didn't know what they were visualizing. The healing was seen as well, showing white puffs, due to blood vessels attempting to regrow into the area of the brain affected. the self healing body. But that was only seen in those without further vaccinations. In those recieving further vaccinations, the progression of the problem ws often clearly evident. In the end there was total disability, and obviously severe impairment. The pictures captured this. And you have seen me reference to many articles and videos on this issue which were put forth by Andrew Moulden.
Quite obviously his site is no longer there, and replaced with all CDC propganda information. Interestingly, you refered to that in one of your blogs, that-that is exactly how a site would be DNS attacked and replaced? I have heard two stories on what happened to Andrew, and noone seems to know for sure. The one that came from him, appears to be that he did have the powers that be go after him, but it was not the legal and way you seem to claim it was. And it was not because it was misinformation. At any rate, knowing him as I do, he would never have replaced his site with CDC information, not willingly.
Why do you not think Moulden's work was never refuted by any profession in his brain science field? Many doctors looked at that including those in pediatric neurology, and were just stunned. You can not have the exact brain science, from within his own field, irrefutable, along with the proof images he had, and claim that is quackery. But of course you claim anything that even suggests harm from vaccines, is all quackery. Who's the QUACK?
Dr. Moulden's intent was to study several areas of brain science and later become a professional in an area that could help brain injured victims. A pretty noble cause. As he went on with that mission, he came to learn of all the additional issues that were just plain wrong in modern medicine; much like I have been on a mission of doing and putting forward myself. When it came to doing a residency, and by that time, he wanted no part of being in any field that prescribed pharmacuetical drugs. Your statement that he took 8 years to try and complete a residency, that only qualified for 3 years, is total bullshit. Where and how can you verify that crap. Dr. Moulden is a brilliant man, and was in the top of his class. All you have done is throw mud at a man that could have had it all, if he had allowed himself to practice in a field that he knew very well, did not have it right; doing more harm than good. How do you practice physiological medicine in any field, that you know is NOT doing all that it can? In all you were shown, you know that; yet you continue to lie. This man could have done so much good, if he had been allowed to.
It is obvious that Dr. Moulden was not the first person to discover the issue of microvascular mini strokes, as evidenced by this bit of information. This information fully backs the entire concept and proof of that issue being very real.
Partial third nerve palsy after Measles Mumps.
Rubella vaccination
For the past several years I have devoted myself to deciphering the neurobehavioral sequel associated with immune system hyper stimulation, neurodevelopmental disorders, and ultimately to vaccinations as the common environmental trigger for several brain and behavioral disorders I have studied since the undergraduate degree.
My work will be submitted for peer review in the upcoming several months. For now, peer review is available in the Tolerance Lost DVD series as I have translated the medical sciences into an information and presentation style that can be understood by the public at large, as well as the vaccine injury court special masters. Examples of the evidence of harm, I have cataloged in a ’see for yourself’ format.
8.) What has the response been to your discoveries? How have they been received by the public / the world at large?
The public gets it. The chiropractors embrace it. The medical Doctors, including pediatric neurologists, are stunned by it. The pharmaceutical and organized medicine cartels – must deny it. The philosophy is “if they cannot deny the message, then they will discredit the messenger.” This is simply how the system works.
16.) What prevents your discoveries from being accepted and taken into account?
This is something I need to publish, however, I put all my efforts towards putting my evidence before the United States federal Circuit courts as the only way to stop this out of control train wreck is to hold the system accountable in court – broadly, else there will be no dis-incentive to the firms that make vaccines for profit to stop making vaccines available.
18.) Have you encountered opposition, hassles, threats or obstacles to the publication of your work in the leading medical journals?
Yes I have. including pulls of my talks as early as 2005 amongst other “pre-emptive” tactics that can be discussed at a later time. For now the issue is on the health and wellness of our fellow beings, my battles are irrelevant.
(And why are there no toxicology experts on any decision making board or on any approval group at the CDC nor FDA)?
(Answer: They don't want to know, because they do know)!
Same statements and rhetoric used there in his posting on the Argus, and as they are also on the referred to above blog! Yet he denies that as well. No matter how many times I have referenced directly to his misleading attacking blog, he refuses to make reference to this one; wonder why! What does that tell you? Might make him look again - like he hasn't a clue; so he just goes on ignoring what is there.
Here is the only quote below I am going to pull from that page, and the rest of what is on that page is so beyond full of misinformation it is not worth responding to. Continued responses, and responding to one misinformation lie after another, simply is not in my plan of presenting public information; and it shouldnt be. I will give you the facts on polio, and the vaccine, and only that.
Quote: [To make matters worse, around 98% of what Mr. Hubbs has used as source material for his idiotic beliefs on this issue stem from none other than whale.to, the known purveyor of all conspiracy theories known to man. According to Scopie’s Law that automatically puts Mr. Hubbs in the loser bracket for this particular debate, but I’ll humor him for at least a few minutes.] Unquote
Really, well maybe the readers should decide if that is true. Anyone can look at the information I put out, and see there is far more to it than that. Those parents and people who are looking for real truth information, could care less about your damage control and endless personal attack ramblings. They wouldn't even waste the time to read a blog like yours.
And don't send me any more messages that all I do is copy and paste and don't have anything original, like Costner does. How is 50 blog pages of personal vendetta insults called science and information? What he has is false and biased propaganda, and anyone can quote and copy and paste the WHO and CDC garbage; thats an easy deal. Providing this kind of information would take 5 blog pages if you were to highlight the main points of educational fact material. Sorry, you will just have to educate yourself, and that takes allot of reading time.
Basic Information.
POLIO DISAPPEARANCE IDEA IS ONLY STATISTICIAL MEDICAL RECLASSIFICATION FRAUD. The numbers that the CDC and the WHO always quote, are nothing but unverifiable numbers they put forth, and I would challenge anyone to prove the factual basis for the numbers quoted in the above linked to blog. Like everything else they quote as to their fear mongering numbers on flu deaths, and as well the numbers from the past H1N1 debacle of 2009, is it entirely numbers taken from thin air. How can you prove cases of H1N1, and number of deaths, when they stopped testing in mid summer using a short version test that did not even determine H1N1, from any other flu strain. Yet clinics everytwhere proclaimed that test to confirm H1N1. Why, cause they were blindly told everything out there, was. You have a CDC that refuses to acknowledge endless numbers of vaccine and herd immunity failures, nor to address it. 36,000 people never died of the flu each year, it was 100% bullshit, and any respiratory bacteria and viral strain whatsoever was included in that. And how much of anything is lab confirmed, only a very small percentage.
"Official data have shown that the large-scale vaccinations undertaken in the US have failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection."
Dr A. Sabin, developer of the Oral Polio vaccine (lecture to Italian doctors in Piacenza, Italy, Decemebr 7th 1985)
"Live virus vaccines against influenza and paralytic polio, for example, may in each instance cause the disease it is intended to prevent..."
Dr Jonas Salk, developer of first polio vaccine (Science 4/4/77 Abstracts) http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web3.html
"There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunisation of children does more harm than good."
Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine.
Polio Vaccine and Cancer
“It’s real troubling because 60 laboratories I understand around the world have done testing and said that the SV-40 is a cause of cancer, and I can’t understand how 60 laboratories could be wrong and the FDA be correct.”
—Congressman Dan Burton
"Crib death" was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccination against diseases of childhood. --Harris L.Coulter, PhD.
Any way you look at it it is a window into the real historical history, you can not refute.
If you THINK vaccines and polio vaccine was the best hing since sliced bread, I suggest you read the below article.
The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences. Neil Z. Miller Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute. www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf
Regarding the wide-spread epidemics that decimated populations at the beginning of the 20th century, modern research indicates that epidemics such as polio, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus died a natural death in the 1940's and 1950's without the assistance of vaccines. How else could the epidemics have ceased in Europe as well where there was no mass vaccination program as in the United States? Studies today point to the fact that the decline of infectious diseases such as illness, titled diseases; are and were due to better sanitation and water systems, better nutrition, etc. Disease is known to run in a cycle even in the nature, as to wild animal populations, and then die out naturally.
Paralytic Polio Linked To Vaccinations.
You can see here as well in this reference, and others, the connection to other vaccines - lowering immunity, and causing succeptability to increased polio rates, "aren't vaccines wonderful"? http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online/vaccine/polio.html
POLIO
"It appears that the most effective way to protect your child from polio is to make sure that he doesn’t get the vaccine.” —Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D http://www.exemptmychild.com/56401/56732.html
Suggested reading below. [Polio] In every case in historical history, in every state, polio, and paralytic polio increased after introduction of the vaccine. It WASN'T just in the Cutter Incident. They claim small pox was eradicated by vaccines as well; how can that be the case, when the vaccine was taken from the market for its known severe side affects, and causation of far more small pox than it prevented. And the CDC has lied again and again. They never even had claimed herd immunity, and estimated only 10% of the total population was ever vaccinated.
Again more references to the influence of DDT, as to polio. Also, being a factor, the date it was banned has nothing to do with its actual rate of use in the time period. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=582
The Plain and Simple truth About Vaccines. But [character name] Costner, from the letter reply posting section of Argus Leader Newspaper in Sioux falls, SD., needs studies in a pharma peer reviewed journal to convince him; 400 studies from other journals would not convince him, and haven't convinced him, nor a plethora anything else; to much to lose, for someone! http://www.vaccinetruth.org/excellent_vaccine_articles.htm
He (alias - Costner) would rather believe all the garbage the CDC puts out like fear mongering that 36,000 people die of the flu each year, decieving people that they have a vaccine to prevent it. That when the majority of the cases include any and all viral and bacterial respiratory related pathogens known to man.
"Oh, ya, aren't vaccines ...great"?
Vaccination Liberation - Home "Free Your Mind....From The Vaccine Paradigm" http://vaclib.org/
THE POLIO VACCINE MYTH
There is endless information here in all of this I could quote, excerpt, and highlight, but due to the amount of that, you just must read it yourself, to become educated to the real facts. You will realize completely that the numbers the CDC, and the WHO quote, are in no way what they represent them to be. It is and always a complete fabrication. They couldn't admit the truth, there was to much to lose, as always. If everything that presents truth is lableled only a conspiracy theory, how will you ever get to the truth? Those organizations do NOT protect us, they are tied to the pharmceutical industry, by huge corporate interest, as well as for the WHO, the Rockefellers, their power, and their legions, have basically controlled this situation as to what takes place and what is put forth for information, for decades. It is no conspiracy theory, it is fact. You have to understand the basic and true history going back decades. That, and its connections to current U.S. health care as well. Research the REAL history. http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/polio.html
Oh ya, and if there were anything wrong, the FDA would be right on it???
Hey, whale.to, is just a messenger, and just like me? But SugarDealer said, Im not a messenger? Well, from the looks of THIS, and all the rest of my work; I certainly am exactly that! And I know the facts, very well.
CDC quotes. No wonder the damage control people like alias Costner that want the truth suppressed, hate and falsely discredit that site so much, its to outright damning to their lies and misinformation. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/cdc.htm
Other vaccine issues of interest. You can not have the plethora of information as to the adverse effects of vaccines, and call them universally safe and effective. Given that, nor can you claim that these efects are rare.
What the Pharmaceutical companies Don't Want You To Know About Vaccines, by Dr. Todd Elsner http://www.exemptmychild.com/
When members of the medical profession speak out against vaccination, it is time to heed warning. Click on the link below to read the press release from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. This organization is composed of over 5,000 medical doctors and surgeons that are calling for a moratorium on the current vaccine program. It needs to be noted that this medical organization called for the moratorium in the year 2000. However, it has fallen on deaf ears.... http://www.aapsonline.org/
You can not have over 36,000 files in one location, regarding unvaccinated children, and no autism, nor any epidemic of asthma, diabetes, ADD/ADHD, nor cancer, and claim vaccines are a benefit to health. Also there are no epidemics of so called vaccine preventable diseases in these children. With all the endless vaccine failures and even known herd immunity failures, many referenced to on this blog, you also can not claim vaccines to be effective. And why does the CDC refuse to address that issue? Instead they falsely fear monger the parents, that it was the unvacinated as cause;that when there clearly was, so called herd immunity vaccination rates that existed. Herd Immunity has no scientific basis, and was originally based out of the veterinary field, and only involved natural immunity, not vaccine attempted immunity.
Vaccines and Immunization References and Research Citations, no science there, huh Costner? How many endless scientific references have you been linked to, nothing is enough, is it? http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/references.htm
COMMENTARY - Universal hepatitis B Vaccination: Is it a Sword of Damocles Hanging Over the Head of the American People? http://www.waisbrenclinic.com/sword.pdf
Overview: VACCINES: What CDC Documents and Science Reveal uncovers shocking and inescapable truths: Vaccinations can cause disease and can be linked to chronic illnesses, including the entire spectrum of developmental, learning and behavioral disorders now epidemic in our children.
The Center for Disease Control is an ardent promoter of vaccines. Yet, from its own research documents, we learn that vaccines are neither safe nor effective. The information contained in this DVD could spare adults from further vaccine-induced injuries ans spare innocent children from a lifetime of mental, physical, and immunological limitations. This is a must-see for those who desire scientific backing for choosing not to vaccinate. 2-hour DVD.
Full Description
Vaccines: What CDC Documents and Science Reveal is a must-see whether you are considering vaccination (for you, your children, parents, patients), have already been vaccinated, or seek scientific backing for choosing not to vaccinate. In fact, if you can only delve into one form of media on the vaccine issue, I assure you this should be it. The 2-hour DVD presented in a lively manner by vaccine expert Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, is vital for everyone to have in their library.
Costner states, "Oh, they are selling something, so it can't be true", so they are automatically considered as selling snake oil. "They have no peer reviewed nor any science". [But, they do]. He never looked, nor reviewed anything, and if he did, he denied it; again and again. Just like as to every source of none CDC, nonbiased information that exists, anywhere. Same thing, full on attacks of and on the messenger; just like you see in his blog. Nothing is enough. Ever, nor ever will be. And he thinks he is the savior by promotion of the full CDC vaccine schedule for YOUR child, falsely making the claim based on CDC and WHO false propaganda, that thousands, if not millions will die without vaccines. You do not prevent nor heal with poison, it is as simple as that! He has had the chance to educate himself to that, but stubbornly refused on every front. He has another mission, denial of all.
As you get to know Mr. Hubbs you realize his medical and vaccine conspiracy theories are not only limited to autism or mercury or thimerosal, but rather to pretty much any vaccine ever developed. This includes the MMR vaccine, the polio vaccine (I'm working on a post related to his "sugar causes polio" nonsense), and of course the Gardisil vaccine.
In fact, for quite some time you could even say Gardisil was Mr. Hubbs' favorite topic, and he considers himself one of the world's foremost researchers on the subject. Granted 100% of what he knows has been obtained via Google searches and he has never set foot in an actual scientific research lab and has never taken a single college course on biochemistry (or any other college course for that matter) nor has he ever bothered to read the numerous medical studies which were performed on the vaccine prior to the FDA approval, but lets try to avoid those issues for now.
Maybe some of this information will clear up some your delusional thought processes as to their being no studies. It is pretty hard to refute when that information comes right from the FDA, and the VRBPAC preapproval meeting documents. Listen up!I could easily outline for you what is on that video and have before; however you can easily follow what is stated. Apparently you dont even know what is in those FDA statements and douments. Looks like the only one avoiding the issues, is you?
So although it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Hubbs would write about Gardisil, what does surprise me is that he makes claims which he himself has never been able to substantiate with science. Case in point is the following comment left on a Gardisil discussion by our very own Mr. Hubbs:
What is quite unbelievable for a person like you that claims to have knowledge of all that claimed to science as to vaccines and as well as to Gardasil, that you can never refer to any, nor post any of that?
I am sure you can and would have the ability to fill this implied consent [having informed the parent or patient of all the risks] form out for each and every vaccine as well? http://www.lowellsfacts.com/MD_Vaccine_Warranty.html
Here he finds a 2 year old posted article reply by me, somewhere on the internet.
"The fact is 90% of HPV infections clear on their own. This vaccination is unproven to how long immunity lasts, may be no more than 5 yrs at best. HPV is not proven to cause cervical cancer, only that HPV sometimes resides in precancerous cervical lesions. The theory that any virus causes cancer is also unproven and questioned by several medical reseachers. [sic]" ~
And goes on to respond:
So here we have Mr. Hubbs giving us facts about HPV as if he has first hand knowledge. Don't bother asking for a source to validate his statements however as Mr. Hubbs is likely to refer you to his own blog as evidence. The simple truth is HPV may clear on its own, but so can the mumps or measles or any number of other viruses. Meningitis could also clear on its own if you really want to get technical, but does that mean nobody should get vaccinated because the virus MIGHT clear on its own with no side effects?
How is mumps and measles even related to HPV? Measles and Mumps cause illness, and HPV is basically and essentially silent as well as mostly unknown for most women that have it. What kind of a refuse to comprehend anything and twisted rationalization is that? Why would you want to inject 225 mcg. of aluminum (amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate) totaling 675 mcg. in the three shots, as well as, sodium chloride, L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate, (roach killer), and water for injection.
However, if you can not understand how all those vaccine toxins can actually dysregulate and suppress immune function, then I can see you have absolutely no comprehension of physiological functions of the body, to begin with? Being that Gardasil is only known to produce titers for 2.5 to 5 years; a 9 year old girl may need up to 4 sets of 3 shots or 3 additional boosters by the time she is 25! If doing the series, (no-one knows), that is 12 Gardasil shots at 225 mcg. aluminum content each. That would end up being 2700 mcg. of aluminum - shot in the arm of a young woman! Then let's add all the other vaccines, and ingredients... they get? Few to no studies have been done combining vaccine ingredients, nor on the synergistic effect it may have.
Do Vaccines Disable The Immune System. (Good article).
Vaccines are destroying our immune systems. Amazingly, the medical profession ignores the incriminating evidence against vaccines, and continues to inflict more unnecessary and harmful vaccines on our nation's infants http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.aspx?Id=539
It probably doesn't matter to Mr. Hubbs that those with HPV could spread it to others just as those with measles or mumps could spread it to others. Mr. Hubbs doesn't seem to care about those who might contract a virus from another person however, he just wants to prevent anyone from ever being vaccinated. The fact that a virus could be passed from person to person and could eventually lead to one or more people being diagnosed with cancer, or in some cases that people could actually die as as direct result from a simple preventable virus just isn't that important to Mr. Hubbs.
I again refer you to the video by Mike Adams and also the information above, showing that real fact information about HPV and Gardasil. You have no proof that Gardasil will prevent anything. How can anyone trust an FDA that ignored the fact that Gardasil had a negetive, thats - 44.6% effect in reduction of precanerous indicators in those in the clinical trials vaccinated with Gardasil? The outcome of that should have been testing for existing HPV strains prior to use of the vaccine. Have they done that, the answer is no; even though one of the companies that makes that test equipment, clearly made issue with that to the FDA in 2006, while making application for specific approval of their equipment for that purpose. All of it went ignored.
How can you trust an FDA that ignored the fact that they seen in the trials an increase in Virulence of non targeted strains of HPV, due to use of Gardasil. Thats nature, always trying to beat what is attempting to beat it; and no differant with bacteria and antibiotics.
Of course his care for others doesn't stop there, and his comments continue:
Then he goes on to find another posted on by me article on the internet
"some Gardasil ingredients,[sic] polysorbate 80, (said to disperse the ingredients [sic] in the vaccine more uninformly [sic]), causes infertility [sic] in mice, and no research on that by Merck was done. The vaccine also contains L- histidine, also known to cause severe allergic reacions [sic], additionally the vaccine contains sodium borate, similar to Borax and has been used as roach killer, tell me why [sic] that is in the vaccine? Do the homework, stop first, research this on the net extensively like I have for weeks. The benefits [sic] do not outweigh the risks."
Do you think you have enough [sic's] in there ...bogus character name, no identity...Costner?
So, you went and googled my name and looked for anywhere I posted. Then you expected me in that post to also fill a full page with all the references OF proof. Do you mean, just like YOU, for the most part have failed to do, here? Ya, thats what I thought.
So according to Mr. Hubbs, the benefit of preventing a young girl or woman from contracting cervical cancer doesn't outweigh the risks of getting the vaccine. Granted he doesn't provide any facts or figures to show us why these risks are so significant, and he doesn't compare the number of doses given of the vaccine with no side effects versus the few claims of vaccine injury.
The figures of how many recieved the vaccine verses the number of significant adverse reactions, unrecovered from outcomes and death, have nothing to do with anything, when you are simply putting forth the potential risks in reference to those who have been harmed. To ignore that, is to essentialy claim that the collateral damage is at an acceptable level to ignore, and that is simply and clearly not the case. That is never an acceptable view, in regard to any vaccine nor pharmacuetical drug. You simply ignore the real risks and minimize it all based on falsified CDC and FDA claimed findings. To claim that there is no pattern found, and no connection is what they perpetually attempt to claim - for any vaccine or drug out there. The damage and death rates for pharmaceutical drugs sometimes have need to be in the 6 digit numbers before they will even consider doing anything. Vioxx for example. And as usual with the FDA, that has to be prompted by outside sources.
Be sure to review my response page 1 to that blog, as well.
In review, it is really worth all that... isn't it; when there is no proof that Gardasil even works! The CDc has touted high levels of near 100% protection, based on what; antibody titers? Antibody titers mean nothing, loosk at all the herd immunity and vaccine failures the CDc has failed to address when the largest problem was in the vaccinated. Fear mongering the parents that it was the unvaccinated that caused it. We all know most schools that had outbreaks actually had the numbers vaccinated to call it herd immunity; something as well that the term in itself has absolutely no basis in any actual vaccine science.
And when Merck attempted to mandate the vaccine for as young as all nine year old girls in every state, I bet there was allot of science backing that too? Working through women in gov't groups and falsely being told what a good deal it was, that was all false hooeey as well.
How as well can you do an honest clinical trial using as a placebo, one placebo containing the full amount of aluminum, and the other placebo contained the carrier solution?
So let's go ahead and do that for Mr. Hubbs since he seems incapable of doing so for himself. According to the CDC as of September 30, 2010, approximately 32 million doses of Gardasil have been distributed in the US. That is 32,000,000 doses and according to Mr. Hubbs, 32,000,000 chances that a risk would outweigh a benefit.
Incorrect: 32 million doses distributed does NOT mean there have been 32 million doses actually used by the public, that figure is seemingly quite unknown as to exact number, or as to even a guess. The actual doses used could be a fraction of that number, so really without the actual figure calculations are not going to be entirely accurate. As well we need to figure in the fact that VAERS is well known to have only a 1 to 10% reporting, due to doctos and other medical workers reluctance to ever report a suspected vaccine reaction, no matter how severe it is wrote off as another coincidence. Obviously your math here has as well entirely ignored that fact, and not figured that factor in!
So of these 32,000,000 doses, how many resulted in negative side effects or "risks"? Well, again according to the CDC as of September 30, 2010, there were 17,160 Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reports of adverse events following Gardasil vaccination in the US. Of these reports, 92% were reports of events considered to be non-serious, and 8% were reports of events considered serious.
And if you believe any bullshit like that- claiming that only 8% of the total of adverse events were serious in nature, you clearly have not done enough research into the real life reality of Gardasil! It (that) is a complete whitewash of the truth, as always. Do you actually believe they would admit to anything, with any honesty? And as well if they were so in denial as to any common link to the death, they certainly would not be honest about the nature of the adverse events either.
There is as well a differant way of looking at it. Under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, over $2 billion has been awarded to children and adults for whom the risks of vaccine injury were 100%. We know as well that the NVCA is not a catch all and only a small percentage of total claims ever actually get settled. Actually, it an unfair system as to its limitations, just as well as it has an outright corrupt system of review.
As well, lets look at that 32 million figure again! The one you equate to doses actually used.
The United States 2000 Enumerated Census showed only 36,695,524 females in the age range of 10 to 29. It was offically reported as of Nov. 2008, that 10 to 20% have received at least one dose of Gardasil; averaging 15%. That number is 5,804,329, which based on that information at that time-recieved at least one dose of Gardasil.
October 23, 2008 Cervical Cancer Vaccine Called Safe
[In this information] The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Immunization Safety Office said a study of 370,000 doses given to girls and young women over the past two years found no evidence that the vaccine causes an increased risk of blood clots or other serious conditions, Bloomberg News reported.
So by that above article, here in 2008 the CDC number of estimated doses of Gardasil used, were 370,000, a long ways from 32 million!!! How's that figure, to you??? In other words they used up less than a million doses of Gardasil, from the first use in June 2006, to October 2008; but used 30 million additional doses between 2008 and 2010? Wow? Something smells a little rotten in Denmark as to your use of the CDC figures... there Costner? You better call the CDC and ask what the right number is, as to those actually vaccinated with Gardasil, and the total number of doses used??? Allot of young ladies never completed the shots, after getting sick from the first one or two
So, it doesn't seem that you could ever really get a precisely accurate count of just how many doses of Gardasil vaccine have actually been used. Unless there is a source, I haven't yet run across.
As to the numbers of adverse reactions; as said, you and the CDC have neglected to inform anyone that there is a well known only 1 to 10% reporting factor as to the VAERS system. So would that matter or make any differance to you? It should. 17160 adverse reactons then become with a 10% reporting factor x 10 and equal to over 171 thousand adverse reactions. 1373 serious reactions then become 13,730. 56 deaths then become 560 deaths. That is if the reporting is even as high as 10%. So what you have created here is just about flat out worthless as to the reality of Gardasil risk.
Gardasil Update: learn about the concerned womens group that took the Gardasil issue to the FDA. And what happened? It doesn't appear that much of anything resulted. The FDA can not admit to any major issue with any vaccine, as they know it will open the pandoras box questioning all vaccines. http://www.lowellsfacts.com/Gardasil_Update.html
The REAL truth!!! CDC Gardasil Risk Report Is A Cover-up
Excerpts:
This week the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in association with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) issued a report on Gardasil vaccine safety that amounts to a cover-up of serious reactions, including paralysis and deaths, that have been reported to the government's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS).
Today (October 24, 2008), the National Vaccine Information Center issued a press release that calls on the CDC and FDA to release to the public the study design, data and names of principal investigators involved in the report maintaining that Gardasil vaccine is safe with no serious side effects. NVIC will also be calling on the newly elected President and members of Congress to remove the nation's vaccine safety monitoring system from DHHS and place it in a separate entity reporting directly to Congress.
Conflicts of interest are rampant in a mass vaccination infrastructure that has the same people, who are regulating and promoting vaccines, also evaluating vaccine safety. This kind of conflict of interest cannot be tolerated.
October 26, 2008 Gardasil safety questioned, CDC urged to back up statement with data. National Vaccine Information Center Says Government Denies Gardasil Risks.
Excerpts:
The CDC and FDA are alleging that the vast majority - if not all - of the approximately 9,000 HPV vaccine adverse events, including (at that time) 27 deaths, reported to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) are not causally related to the Gardasil vaccine based on internal analysis, including review of medical records of girls and women vaccinated in HMO's participating in the federal Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) Project and other closed government operated databases.
"Transparency in government is essential to trust in government and replication is the hallmark of good science," said NVIC co-founder and president Barbara Loe Fisher. "Parents of young girls and women cut down in their prime - some of them paralyzed or dead within hours or days of getting Gardasil vaccine - deserve better answers than a whitewashing of this vaccine's very serious side effects. Until there is an independent confirmation of these unverified findings by individuals and companies without financial ties to the government or industry, it is not credible." http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/126924.php http://www.news-medical.net/news/2008/10/26/42159.aspx
So out of 17,160 events, approximately 92% (or 15,787 events) are non-serious. This includes things like pain at the injection site (common for any shot), dizziness, headache, fever, or fainting. Since these events are not serious and typically clear up on their own, lets disregard them for the sake of this discussion.
Do you mean, just like they disregarded all the endless number of seizures these girls had a short time after the shots, and as well even days and weeks later. As for some of the reported as Gardasil deaths to VAERS, and I wondered too, how a car accident death could be attributed to Gardasil. They had a seizure and crashed their cars, and someone knew it! It was oddly enough listed the same way in the clinical trials as well. And what did the FDA do? They only placed a new warning to have the woman lying down when injected and watch for them 15 minutes. Again, a total disconnect from the reality of the situation that was and is going on.
This leaves us with the 8% (or approximately 1,373 events) which are classified as serious. Of this 8%, some of these events include girls being diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS), although once again if we refer to the CDC source material we find "there has been no indication that Gardasil increases the rate of GBS in girls and women above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.
And, how much consideration was given to Gardasil being combined with other vaccines?
If you actually think Guillian-Barre Syndrome is the issue and the only major issue with Gardasil, you have been drinking the CDC Koolaid for far to long!
Again, do not forget that as to that VAERS reporting, that it is clearly well known that VAERS contains only reporting of 1 to 10% of the total reactions that should and could have been reported. Why? Because the brainwashed doctors refuse to report the reactions, no matter how severe; to include even death it is attributed to something else or no cause found. Look at those VAERS reports! The assumption is always that it couldn't have been the vaccine, and that it is all again a coincidence. When you read the endless real life accounts of this as to all the Gardasil unrecovered outcomes; doctors have repeatedly nearly bankrupted families, looking and testing for any cause - but Gardasil. Oh ya, now they have Cervarix too, with its new Apo4 adjuvant, proven equally if not more dangerous in its now known results. It was first approved in Europe and was held up here over the adjuvant they had no existing way nor set guideline in regard to safety. Just let your daughter be a guinea pig for pharma.
So what does that mean? Well it simply means the incidence of girls being diagnosed with GBS occurs in the same rate whether they were or were not vaccinated with Gardisil. Therefore scientifically speaking we cannot link the rate of GBS with the vaccination and the only reason these types of events are reported to VAERS is because the system is intended to collect all events whether related or not. Since there is no proven increase in the rate of GBS, it doesn't appear this is a significant risk.
Ok, ya right, keep believing that. Whatever the CDC states is correct and absolutely right!
Another serious event reported included blood clots. This isn't so much of an issue with Gardisil as it is with an injection itself of course, but as it turns out those girls and women who experienced blood clots were in the "at risk" category which includes those who smoke, those who take oral contraceptives, and those who are considered obese. Thus in this case, a number of factors may have contributed to the blood clots including lifestyle choice... so is this something we can blame solely upon the Gardisil vaccine? Not very likely.
Here is what even JAMA had to say about those blood clots.
Conclusions Most of the AEFI rates were not greater than the background rates compared with other vaccines, but there was disproportional reporting of syncope and venous thromboembolic events. The significance of these findings must be tempered with the limitations (possible underreporting) of a passive reporting system.
If they were at risk in using birth control pills at the time they were given Gardasil, then why did the FDA not require Merck to study that prior to approval of the vaccine? There no warnings on that, any more than that Gardasil could cause a -44.6% increased chance of cervical cancer, if you already had an existing targeted strain. it is right in the FDA approval douments. As condition of approval Merck was to study it further and report back. Try and find anything in the FDA douments on that outcome? It doesn't exist.
An example of this would be building a home. The foundation is designed to support a single family home with one story above ground, and assuming the house is build as designed everything will be fine. However decades later, the new owner of the house decides he needs more room, so he adds another two stories to the house. He doesn't bother to reinforce the foundation, and assumes everything will be fine. He finishes the project and decides to put a new hot tub on the third floor which holds 1,000 gallons of water. A few weeks after living in the new expanded house it starts to settle. A few weeks after that the foundation develops a huge crack on one wall, and soon the foundation fails and the house falls down bringing the hot tub and the 1,000 gallons of water into the basement
Kind of like the house of Merck should have cracked and fallen, after the Vioxx and Gardasil scandles?
So is the hot tub to blame for the foundation failing? Obviously not - because there was a known weak point in the home. Had the foundation been strong enough to accept a larger structure, there wouldn't be a problem, but we don't blame the failure on the hot tub merely because we didn't know about the weak foundation.
The same is true with a case where a vaccine or medication might result in a condition which was underlying. Even if we didn't know about the condition, is it the fault of the vaccine if it comes to the surface? If we did know about the condition, but didn't think it would impact us, is it still fair to blame the vaccine if we are proven wrong? I dare say there is inherent risk in everything we do, but we can no more blame the vaccine for an underlying condition when we knew about the risk factors than we can blame the hot tub for the failing foundation when the builder knew about the weak foundation.
Translation: Even if it was the Gardasil, that way they can always blame it on something else, and claim there was never any common link found; no matter what. Must of been another coincidence.
All of this said, the one primary serious event that everyone is concerned with is the risk of death, so if it is determined that Gardisil results in girls dying simply by taking the vaccine, then surely it needs to be addressed. Looking at the CDC material, we can see that out of those 32,000,000 doses of Gardisil that have been given thus far, there have been 56 deaths reported among females who have received the Gardisil vaccination.
32 million doses given??? Again, read what I just put further up on this page for information! Are you that cognitively inept that you believe 32 million distributed doses just positively has to equal 32 million doses used? That when there were only slightly over 36 million women age 10 to 29, in the 2000 census? Like noone heard all the bad stuff about Gardasil and refused their daughter to take it. It is not like it is a huge secret.
Anything you can find as always, to distort and twist the truth.
Now if we assume every woman receives the full recommended three dose schedule of the vaccine, that tells us that 10,700,000 woman have received Gardisil thus far, and of those 10,700,000 woman 56 have died. I don't mean to trivialize 56 deaths. In fact I don't even mean to trivialize one single death, but the math tells us these 56 deaths account for approximately 0.0005% of the women who received the Gardisil vaccination. In other words the remaining 99.9995% of women are still alive and with us.
Oh, you are so feeling, what a nice guy?
It looks like you again clearly...ARE... trivializing allot of issues here! No proof..ever!
More importantly however, according to the CDC out of these 56 deaths (which of only 30 have been confirmed thus far), there was "no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine". This means that if a woman died of a totally unrelated heart issue within days or perhaps even weeks of receiving the Gardisil vaccine, that event would be reported to VAERS. It doesn't mean Gardisil caused the issue, but to err on the side of caution, all such events are reported.
Confirmed? You mean they might not be dead?
However since the analysis of these deaths does not include any pattern or clustering when compared to non-vaccinated control groups, no reasonable researcher or scientist (or even anyone with an open mind) can claim that these deaths are all related to the Gardisil vaccine itself. In fact if you read about the actual deaths in greater detail, you will find in some cases the deaths were directly attributed to causes such as illicit drug use and heart failure. Can we really blame a death upon a vaccination when the women decides to inject herself with illegal drugs and dies of an overdose? I personally don't think so.
Now it is quite possible a woman out there has died or been seriously injured as a direct result of the vaccine. Each person is unique, we all have different genetic traits including dominant and recessive genes. We each have different risk factors, different traits such as allergies or reactions to chemical compounds, and we each have our own medical histories which may include other prescription drugs, over-the-counter medications, supplements, nutrient intakes etc, etc. Therefore no medication, supplement, or even food is compatible with all humans, and as such there will always be a risk when someone decides to eat a new food, take a new supplement, use a new brand of toothpaste, or yes even take a new medication or vaccination.
You can not possibly be that ignorant? Eating sandwiches is sure scarey stuff? Considering that, I think I will definately stay with my old brand of toothpaste? Holy buckets. Any harm that comes from pharma, is due to bad and faulty genetics? "We done nothin"!
Obviously anything and everything we do has risk, and it is up to each individual to determine if they feel that risk is acceptable when compared to the benefits of eating the food, swallowing the supplement or vitamin, taking the medication, receiving the vaccine, or undergoing a medical procedure etc. I don't believe that is my place to tell someone else that they must get vaccinated, but at the same time I don't believe it is in Mr. Hubbs' place to tell them they can't. It is a personal decision best left up to the individual when they take all of the risk factors into mind.
Noone said they can't do... anything! Like I marched around to every clinic in town and told them all, no, don't get that Gardasil. Informed decisions is all it was and all it ever will be about. You know the kind you advocated as well but failed to give them the complete information? Decisions made with as well, the non biased information. According to you nothing is biased in the pharmaceutical world, and there is no control of any important information, so you falsely believe people such as me are not needed, nor anyone else out there but pharma the CDC and FDA. You have all the science...remember?
However it seems clear in this case, the risk of receiving a Gardisil vaccination is no greater than the risk of choosing to eat a sandwich for lunch or the decision to take aspirin to relieve a headache. For all of the screaming and yelling and arguments made against this vaccine really don't live up to scrutiny when you look at the facts and examine the real numbers.
Does a sandwich have any aluminum and/or sodium borate in it? Do you think there is any difference in eating polysorbate 80, and injecting it? How about L- histidine? They thought they didn't need to study it before they thought of injecting it in a vaccine, as it is an amino acid already found in the body. What they didn't realize was that injecting it can throw off the natural balance of histidine that exists. Mixed with polysorbate 80 that also causes infertility in mice, wellaa, you get the article published, Polysorbate 80 and histidine a marriage of disaster. But surely you have never read that.
Why then don't you just inject a sandwich, for lunch; to fit your logic? I think Sanfords doing a diabetes study on that? And just like the thimersol issue, you equate eating a substance like tuna, with injecting thimerosal, and as essentially the same thing. You are now as author of that blog, a genuine top notch physiological health scholar! We can all now clearly see that.
Oh, and you have someone else that feels the same way...congratulations!
I will debate you publicly any place you choose, and we will videotape it and upload it to youtube, that should be good for a laugh? What did you say your health care credentials... were? Oh thats right, you don't have any identity.
You should have known better than to screw with that!
